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Details are sketchy right now. I attached the brochure and did some price checking.  Seems everything is included.  When going through the web pricing plan, you need to select your degree of print coverage.  I'm sure this will lead to many issues. Hoping to hear more from others as on this!

https://allinplan.services.xerox.com/

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This is interesting. I'd definitely be interested in viewing the contract details to see what the actual overage charges are. Xerox keeps saying that it is focused on growing share in the SMB segments, so I view this as another tactic to show shareholders that they are investing in this space. Similar to the acquisition of Digitex Canada and Arena Group in the UK. 

Not sure this All in plan will be be wildly successful (HP does something similar through IT resellers and VARs).

Attached is the Allinplan from Xerox.  I highlighted some of the less favorable points that I see. If anyone sees anything else please post a reply in this thread.

When you access the web site there are three choices for volume and three choices for coverage.  I believe I selected the middle for both of them.  The app then generates a lease document, each lease has a "benchmark". I was curious about that the first time I saw it.  After reading through the lease twice I finally noticed the clause in the agreement that states something to the effect that if you are over three time in a row, XFS will either raise the monthly rate or add an additional MFP with a monthly fee attached.

Other than that I don't see that much out of the ordinary with the lease terms. But I did highlight some of my concerns.

I believe there will be issues down the road if someone selects minimum coverage and ends up doing high coverage.

I'll also post the copy of the maintenance agreement. In addition I don't see any copyrights so signup and download those quotes before you can't.  As far as MFP's there are only three color MFP's on the site right now. I did not look at printers at this time.

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Attached is the Allinplan from Xerox.  I highlighted some of the less favorable points that I see. If anyone sees anything else please post a reply in this thread.

When you access the web site there are three choices for volume and three choices for coverage.  I believe I selected the middle for both of them.  The app then generates a lease document, each lease has a "benchmark". I was curious about that the first time I saw it.  After reading through the lease twice I finally noticed the clause in the agreement that states something to the effect that if you are over three time in a row, XFS will either raise the monthly rate or add an additional MFP with a monthly fee attached.

Other than that I don't see that much out of the ordinary with the lease terms. But I did highlight some of my concerns.

I believe there will be issues down the road if someone selects minimum coverage and ends up doing high coverage.

I'll also post the copy of the maintenance agreement. In addition I don't see any copyrights so signup and download those quotes before you can't.  As far as MFP's there are only three color MFP's on the site right now. I did not look at printers at this time.

So,

playing devils advocate here, if we hammer our first device two of every 3 months and limit printing using various methods on the third you would bypass the system safeguards/charges/up-feeing for overprinting?

 

Interesting, I think a lot of customers will be looking to find loopholes in this as the potential rewards are high.

Good luck to Xerox, I figure the only way this will work will be if their projections/calculations of how many customers are under/over printers (their sweet spot) are correct.

These figures I imagine are based on existing use customers so their is nothing to suggest customer print patterns will change (to the band where the customer is gaming the system and Xerox is breaking maybe even or slightly losing?).

All in all thanks for sharing, very interesting indeed.

AC68

AC68 posted:
Art Post posted:

Attached is the Allinplan from Xerox.  I highlighted some of the less favorable points that I see. If anyone sees anything else please post a reply in this thread.

When you access the web site there are three choices for volume and three choices for coverage.  I believe I selected the middle for both of them.  The app then generates a lease document, each lease has a "benchmark". I was curious about that the first time I saw it.  After reading through the lease twice I finally noticed the clause in the agreement that states something to the effect that if you are over three time in a row, XFS will either raise the monthly rate or add an additional MFP with a monthly fee attached.

Other than that I don't see that much out of the ordinary with the lease terms. But I did highlight some of my concerns.

I believe there will be issues down the road if someone selects minimum coverage and ends up doing high coverage.

I'll also post the copy of the maintenance agreement. In addition I don't see any copyrights so signup and download those quotes before you can't.  As far as MFP's there are only three color MFP's on the site right now. I did not look at printers at this time.

So,

playing devils advocate here, if we hammer our first device two of every 3 months and limit printing using various methods on the third you would bypass the system safeguards/charges/up-feeing for overprinting?

 

Interesting, I think a lot of customers will be looking to find loopholes in this as the potential rewards are high.

Good luck to Xerox, I figure the only way this will work will be if their projections/calculations of how many customers are under/over printers (their sweet spot) are correct.

These figures I imagine are based on existing use customers so their is nothing to suggest customer print patterns will change (to the band where the customer is gaming the system and Xerox is breaking maybe even or slightly losing?).

All in all thanks for sharing, very interesting indeed.

AC68

or what happens if you don't receive meter reads on your monthly invoice? You may not even know your volume until you hit the three month clause and bang you have an higher monthly cost for the rest of the term of the lease

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