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Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy:
Has anyone ever seen or used the Xerox 914, the grand daddy of all copiers?


I sold for Xerox in NYC in the mid to late 70's. I handled Govt Accounts out of the NY Downtown Branch. The NY Public Library was a good customer. When I handled them as late as 1978 they had a 914 that was originally installed in 1960 . not only was it still being used daily , it was in pristine condition being taken care of by the same person who was its first and only "key operator". It was spotless and made perfect copies. The reason it remained - it was the only machine at that time that could handle the then used perforated 110 1b cardstock that created the copies of the Library Card file system. It may still be there ..or maybe it was the one used on Mad Men since it was identical and was installed on the corner of 5 Fifth Ave and 42nd St where the Library has its main branch....not from from "Madison Ave"....a great memory
In 1969 in VietNam there was a 914 installed at our Regimental HQ (Force Logistic Command - Camp Books USMC) that was used, very sparingly, for letterhead reproduction. I wonder what the response time was? I still have a 914 PriceList somewhere in my files. My first stateside experience as a Xerox salestype was trying to convert a 914 Rental into an OTP (Option-to-Purchase) - I laid my briefcase on the printshops "counter" and asked to run a sample on their unit. After getting permission I could'nt find it in the shop - I had laid my briefcase down on it tho in my defense I was facing the back. Xerox' CopyFlo predates the 914 though it was used for offset masters mainly. Wow, I'm "too long in the tooth".
To be honest, I don't know the English word for them. What I call a ZnO copier was a machine that used a roll of zink oxide treated paper; this paper had characteristics like a selenium drum, sort of.
The copiers using what I call Premix was fx Saxon, instead of metal as carrier it used a fluid (dispersant) and a toner (liquid pigment) It copied on plain paper. The fumes were nice…

I hope you get the picture - it's kind of late here! Smile

edit: i found this Saxon PPC1
and this ZnO copier (more recent)Develop 10
I thought estat was short for "electrostatic" You will get hits when you google that but I don't think it is what you were after. I remember replacing "Dual Spectrum" machines which is what we called the 3M 209. they required two rolls of paper, one was pink and the other treated similar to the treated paper machines that followed such as the 3M VQC
You're right OG. it is short for electrostatic. That was the process as it differed from the dual spectrum and we couldn't say Xerox, even tho it had by that time become generic for copier. And hey, that's what happened to mayonnaise and linoleum.
The first Copier that I was trained to repair (in Manhattan) was the 3M Alpha Secretary II. It came with a pair of wooden tongs, and you had to have an empty metal waste basket next to it so when the paper caught fire if it jamed under the toaster unit, you used the wooden tongs to transfer it to the solid metal waste basket where it could burn out "safely". Definitely a pre OSHA device, and these were sold into offices all over NYC.
Vince:

I remember seeing a few of these in the field and also remember burning my dam fingers! I learned on the Minolta 101's and had to repair some of these in the field what a job hey were, especially if you had to restring the guide wires (it was more like 25lb test fishing line).
VinceMcHugh posted:
The first Copier that I was trained to repair (in Manhattan) was the 3M Alpha Secretary II. It came with a pair of wooden tongs, and you had to have an empty metal waste basket next to it so when the paper caught fire if it jamed under the toaster unit, you used the wooden tongs to transfer it to the solid metal waste basket where it could burn out "safely". Definitely a pre OSHA device, and these were sold into offices all over NYC.

 

Larry Kirsch posted:
VinceMcHugh posted:
The first Copier that I was trained to repair (in Manhattan) was the 3M Alpha Secretary II. It came with a pair of wooden tongs, and you had to have an empty metal waste basket next to it so when the paper caught fire if it jamed under the toaster unit, you used the wooden tongs to transfer it to the solid metal waste basket where it could burn out "safely". Definitely a pre OSHA device, and these were sold into offices all over NYC.

 

Nice memory. 

Old Glory posted:
About the size and weight of a Volkswagon and came standard with a fire extinguisher.

I asked the customers if they had fire insurance aside from the extinguisher. Helped me sell some competitive products. Worked a few times. 

Or I sold them fire insurance policies. Lol 

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