Ricoh Rumor!! New Strategy?

Hmmm ... Samsung? Have you seen specs on the new Samsung SCX-6345N? Considering Ricoh's relationship relabeling Samsung, can't help but think this would be the one. The no 11x17 high speed option we all have bantered about ... Copy size up to legal, Letter 45 ppm, duplex up to 42 ppm, easy touch screen control, standard hard drive, standard 50 sheet adf, duplex, scan in color (email/FTP/SMB/Client), network and USB print, 520 sheet paper tray plus 100 sheet bypass, OPTIONAL Fax, 3 x 520 additional trays, finisher ... Toner is 20K, user replaceable Drum Cartridge is 60K, reasonable cost per page for cartridges ... Samsung wholesale approx $2,000.

Here is an image of the base model, not really shown on the brochure ...

Sorry, I think we need to become a samsung dealer.

Method 2 Beam Laser Scanning Unit and Electro Photography
Speed * Up to 45 ppm in Letter;
Duplex Printing Speed: Up to 42 ipm in Letter
Resolution Up to 1,200x1,200dpi Effective Output
First Print Out Time 8 seconds (from Standby mode)
Emulation PCL6, PostScript 3
Memory 256MB (Shared)
Duplex Print Standard
Copy Speed ** Up to 45 cpm in Letter
Resolution (Optical) Scan: up to 600 x 300 (text, text/photo) up to 600 x 600 (photo using platen) up to 600 x 300 (photo using DADF) Print: up to 600 x 600 (text, text/photo, photo)
Resolution (Enhanced) -
First Copy Out Time Less than 5 seconds
Zoom Rate 25~400% (platen), 25~200% (ADF)
Multy Copy 1~999
Duplex Copy Standard (1:2, 2:2, 2:1)
Scan Compatibility Twain standard, WIA standard
Method Color CCD
Resolution(Optical) 600 x 600 dpi
Resolution(Enhanced) Max. 4,800 x 4,800 dpi
Scan to Email, FTP, SMB, Client
Effective Scan Length Platen : 348mm, DADF :348mm
Effective Scan Width Max 208mm(8.2")
Color Bit depth Internal : 36 bit, External : 24 bit
B/W Bit depth 1 bit for Text mode, 8 bit for Gray mode
Gray Scale 256 Levels
FAX Compatibility ITU-T G3, Super G3
Applicable line PSTN/PABX
Modem Speed 33.6 Kbps
Transmission Speed *** Approx. 3 seconds per page
Compression Mode MH/MR/MMR/JBIG/JPEG
Scan Speed **** Platen : Approx. 2 sec ADF : Approx. 5.5 sec
Resolution Standard : 203 X 98dpi Fine : 203 X 196dpi Super Fine : 203 X 391dpi, 300 X 300dpi, 406 X 392dpi
Memory 16 MB
Auto Dial Speed dial : 200 Locations
Paper Handling Input Capacity and Types Main Tray : Up to 520sheets (75g/§³) MP Tray : 100sheets
Output Capacity and Types 500-sheet Face Down (75 g/§³, 20 lbs)
Media Size (for Print) Letter, Legal, Oficio, Folio, A4, JIS B5, ISO B5, Executive, A5, Statement, A6, PostCard 4x6, Envelope B5, Envelope Monarch, Envelope COM-10, Envelope DL, Envelope C5, Envelope C6, Custom
Media Size (for Fax and Copy) for Fax : Letter, A4, Legal
Media type Plain Paper, Thin Paper, Bond, Punched, Pre-Printed, Recycled, Envelope, Transparency, Label, CardStock, Letterhead,Thick,Cotton,Colored,Archive
ADF Capacity DADF 50 sheets ( 20lb, 80 g/§³, 0.1mm)
ADF Document Size Width: 174 ~ 218mm (6.9"~8.5") Length : 128 ~ 356mm (5" ~ 14.0") for Single page scan 128 ~ 400mm (5" ~ 15.7") for Multi pages scan
General Net Dimension (W x D x H) 637.4 X 489 X 616 mm
Packing Dimension (W x D x H) 822 X 600 X 713 mm
Weight with Consumables 44.5kg
Packing Weight 51kg
LCD 1/2 VGA (640x240)
System Memory 256MB
Interface Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet 10/100 base TX
OS Compatibility ***** Windows 98/Me/2000/XP(32/64bit)/2003 Server(32/64bit)/Vista, Various Linux OS including Red Hat 8~9, Fedora Core 1~4, Mandrake 9.2~10.1 and SuSE 8.2~9.2 Mac OS 10.3~10.4
Warm-up Time Less than 35 sec from sleep mode
Noise Level ****** Operating : 60 dBA @ simplex printing 62 dBA @ simplex copy Standby : 43 dBA
Power Requirement AC 110~127V (-10%~6%) / 6A AC 220-240V(-10%-6%) / 3A (Not convertible) 50 / 60 Hz
Power Consumption Sleep Mode : 35 W Standby Mode : 170 W Average : 900 W
Operating Conditions Temperature : 10 ~32¡É Humidity : 20 ~ 80%RH
Duty Cycle, monthly Up to 200,000 pages
Consumables Type 2-piece Cartridge
Yield Toner : Average Cartridge Yield 20,000 standard pages. Declared yield value in accordance with ISO/IEC 19752 Drum : 60,000 Pages *******
Code Toner : SCX-D6345A Drum : SCX-R6345A
Options Network Standard
Others 256MB Memory: ML-MEM140 Fax Kit Serial Type: SCX-FAX100 Fax Kit Parallel Type: SCX-FAX101 Finisher: SCX-FIN10S Staple Cartridge: SCX-STP000 Stand Short Type: SCX-DSK10S Stand Tall Type: SCX-DSK10T FDI Kit: SCX-KIT10F Optional 520 sheet CST: SCX-S6345A Maintenance Kit: SCX-V6345A, SCX-V6345B

http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction...?page=Specifications

Does anyone have any consumable pricing for this yet?

I have seen the toner listed as $116.99/20K yield ... drum $223.99/60K yield

So, far that's a retail of .00953, and thats not including the fuser nor the transfer roller. However with volume of 5-10K per month this may not be an issue when considering a 45ppm MFP with 11x17 that will sell for over $14K.

check out my blog for my article: http://mfpsolutions.blogspot.com/

I have seen an early version of this unit at the Samsung Canada head office and it does look reasonable. The DF is not going to be as heavy duty as the copier based products, but for many offices this is not an issue unless they do a lot of scanning. The user interface reminds me of the touch screen on the Lexmark MFP printer based products and is extremely simple looking. This will appeal to a lot of purchasing type buyers. This is going to be a price led product. I know the guy that Samsung has hired to be responsible for setting up the dealer side of their Canadian operations and he is an ex-highly successful Kyocera Regional Manager. He knows the printer and copier business and understands dealerships. He says the Canadian strategy is to put this product through the BTA channel, and protect them by pricing from distribution. Don't have Canadian pricing as yet, but it certainly looks interesting as a competitor to HP and Xerox who are already well into this game.

Good luck guys...we all knew this had to be coming....wait till we see the colour versions of this kind of product?

Lee

Thats funny because Xerox has already relabled this product....`

Lonestar:

Thanx for the info on the Xerox model, and here is the brochure.

If it's good enough for Xerox to relabel its good enough for me to resell!

I will look at this product if ricoh re-labels it. I'm not interested in becoming a Samsung dealer - nothing is worse than selling a product and then seeing it Sams Club the next weekend, except maybe your customer calling you and saying they saw the product you just sold them at Sam's club for several hundred dollars less.

I saw the Samsung product at ITEX last week. They say that it will not be sold except through dealers. It is the SCX-6345N and is identicle to the Xerox 4150. They say that according to to research, only 2.35% of the U.S. use 11x17 and the HP4345 has 14% of the worldwide segment 4 copier market.
The SCX6345N retails for $2,995 with network B&W print and Color Scan standard and 4800x4800 dpi On the scanner, 1200x1200 dpi print and 600x600 dpi copy.
Postscript III is standard
Duplex is standard.
100 sheet by-pass
40 GB HDD
20K toner yield and 60K Drum.
CPC excluding toner of $.008
It has the ability to prioritize prints from the PC or when you walk up to the unit
Envelope feeding from the tray.
Legal sized platen and three optional paper trays for a total of 4.
They also have some sort of arrangement with LibertyNet to package a Document Management solution that can do zonal OCR and read bar code instructions.

I've got to get me some of these!! I will relable them myself and call them something like a Century Perfecto until someone else relabels. Can anyone supply me with a name of a rep to call for these?

Think of the possibilities and the page counts that can be captured where accounts are producing 10K per month. You can meet their needs with an 11x17 printer (if needed) and then have the MFP for the rest of the document volume! Heck, what does a C4500 sell for with finishing and paper trays? $21K or more, you can sell the SCX for $6K maxed and then supply them with a c811dn with finisher for $6K, they would then have 45ppm output for all devices, and still be around 12K and beat the socks off the competition.

This is a window of opportunity to "right sell" save them hardware dollars and collect all of the clicks.

I like your thinking. It may not be what we would prefer to sell, but if it meets client needs and we can make a buck selling them, then it certainly seems to make sense. I expect to see one in our back office in the next few days...we'll give everyone a sense of how they actually work and what the technical team says about them once we have it tried out.

Great! Can't wait to hear more about this unit

Well, the unit arrived and took our technical team about 20 minutes to set it up...sight unseen. We have the fully loaded unit, 4 paper trays, fax, finisher with staple. It took a bit more time to put it on the network and we have been giving it the testing from them on. Early feel is it is a pretty good unit. Wouldn't want to put the document feeder into a site doing tons of scanning...but it is certainly fine for normal document copying and faxing.

Only issue we have as yet is getting the SMB scanning hooked up. Appears to be some setting we can't find and the training material we downloaded doesn't give us the details we need. But we have seen this with other brands the first time we setup a new model so that is not unusual.

Printing is quick, as it should be. Interface is actually quite intuitive...very low training need I would say. A lot less complicated than most. Compared to many other tier 2 and 3 units the interface is really very elegant.

Our unit came with the ability to store documents from the printer for secure print and for reuse. Unit has account codes capability built in. Since I don't have the full specs etc. not sure what is optional or not.

The DF is a recirculating duplex unit and the unit has standard duplex. Slows it down marginally in print, but not a lot. The offset finisher is super easy to install and works ok, although it seems to always offset each page as they are ejected which slows it down a bit vs. a straight out exit. Finisher can be removed very easily by undoing one cable and pushing down a lever and pulling it out of the base. Should make any service issues (or replacement if needed) easy. Toner and Drum units are easy to remove and are definately user replaceable. fuser is mounted to the right side panel and can be removed with a couple of screws. Not really targeted at user replaceability, but an interested IT type could do it easily.

Can't offer any pricing info at this point as my contact at Samsung Canada says they have not set everything up yet.

Certainly I can see where this unit could find a home in a print centric location with need for some copy, fax and scan. It offers most of the goodies that bigger units do, is fast and simple to setup and run. It will be interesting to see what the running costs look like.

It looks good as well. Does present itself as a mikey mouse design like many other lower end products do.

Once I have some numbers I'll add some more info.

Lee

Correction to the previous post so I don't mislead. It shoud have read...DOESN'T present itself as a mikey mouse design like many other lower end products do...it actually looks and runs quite substantially in our first testing.

Sorry for the confusion

Lee

Great Stuff, keep it coming!

I'm 90% sure Muratec is also relableing this.