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Percentage of Office Equipment Leases?

Art Post ·
Curious if anyone out there has data about lease terms. What I'm looking for is the percentage of 36 month leases that are booked each year on average. Can anyone help?
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Old Glory ·
I don't have any "data" but I will say that probably 80%-90% of the deals we are involved in are asking for a 36 month term. I will also say that where leasing used to be predominate, now leasing is required in less than half of the placements.
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Art Post ·
wow really? Half of your placements are purchases?
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Deanw ·
75% of our business is lease. Of our lease 90% are 60 month
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Art Post ·
@Deanw thanx for this. Wow, 90% are 60 months, is that because you lead with 60 months?
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Jayjay4535 ·
We are also 90% of 60 month terms; I don't even quote other terms unless the customer specifically asks for it. The percentage of leases vs. purchases is even higher I would say; 96% are leases. Very rare customers write a check for their equipment.
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Art Post ·
I used to always quote just 60, know I quote 36 standard and options for 48 and 60, just my way of whittling down the amounts of clients that take 60 month leases. I’d rather be back in at 30 months rather than 55 months
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Jayjay4535 ·
What do you sell your customer if there wasn’t a model generation refresh during that 36 month period?
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Old Glory ·
That brings up a good point. Of course it depends on your payplan but I would have great difficulty making my G.P. numbers if I didn't have renewal revenue from my 36 month leases. Anymore, there just isn't a good reason in my mind (in most cases) for someone to change equipment after just 3 years. I lower their payment 60% and still make good commission...they're happy, I'm happy, and my company's happy. I get a sale every 3 years instead of 5 with a much higher revenue and G.P. toward my...
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Art Post ·
Agree with @oldglory we shoulod push more shorter term leases, good for us and good for the client Especially for dealerships that have high escalation clauses in the maintenance/supply agreement. Lately manufacturers have not been refreshing the models like they did three years ago. On average it was every 24 months, now I'm seeing models hanging around 36 plus months.
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fisher ·
I just got bit by Ricoh not refreshing models. Had a customer come to end of term on a particular model (MP C401sr) that has not refreshed now in over 4 years. It launched in May of 2014 and has never been refreshed. To me that's inexcusable. Because of the configuration I had nothing to offer the customer other than a brand new machine in the same model and configuration as the old machine or the option to take the Buyout to keep. The customer took the buyout. It really burns me to have a...
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Art Post ·
I feel your pain!! I have C8003's out on three year leases that are due soon and there is no upgrade path there also. What worries me even more with Ricoh is the fact they are not manufacturing any of their A4 black devices anymore. I think this entire move to services is going to affect all of the refreshing, except for color MFP's and production.
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Deanw ·
Wow, I did not realize that Ricoh is not manufacturing their A4 mono. Who manufacturers the IM350/430 series?
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Art Post ·
They are made by Kyocera, Ricoh puts there tablet aka interface in replace of the Kyocera one
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Deanw ·
Are you sure? BLI says OEM is Ricoh. Drum lifes are pretty short for a Kyo product.
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Art Post ·
Take a look from the first try up on the Ricoh and compare to the Kyocera. Except for the interface they are identical. Both have the same print speed of 62ppm. In addition the Ricoh product guide does not reveal the drum life. The MP 501 and 601's were also the Kyocera print engines. There are small differences between each model. However you can see by the picture that these two devices are identical except for the interface of the Ricoh. I believe this was one of the trade-offs that Ricoh...
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Deanw ·
I agree on the MP501 and MP601 but the IM350/430 series....who do you think make those?
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fisher ·
Not sure who makes the IM350/430 series. It may be Ricoh. Not a big fan of these products but I sell them because I have to. Wish Ricoh would bring back the MP201spf.
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Art Post ·
Kyocera
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grizzlyadams ·
I noticed that the new PC600 color printer also looks to be a Kyocera product. Those funky shaped waste toner bottles were the give away. As for leases I always lead with 36 months, I agree with Art that I would much rather approach the customer at 30 months rather than 55. The only time I even show a 60 month is if I know the customer is shopping a competitor who pushes 60. It usually seems like its the larger dealers pushing 60 months, maybe for the escalation revenue in years 4&5? I...
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