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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago, The Last Week in September 2013
Wow, has it really been 5 years since the launch of Ricoh ICE. Well the threads from 5 years ago state it is. In addition I posted up a thread about copier demonstrations. Check em when you have the time. Enjoy the threads from 5 Years ago this week! 10 Awesome Tips for a Great MFP/Copier Demo Re: Adobe PostScript vs. Emulation IPS · 9/23/135:27 PM Czech is correct: there are Ricoh printer models with non-Adobe PostScript as well as 3rd-party Adobe controllers for Kyocera, Konica Minolta and...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The First Week in October 2003
Not a lot here this week, but some interesting items that included Canon Business Solutions and a duplicator that was introduced with a paper tray. Oh yes, and the question of the week was who was going buy Imagistics. Can anyone answer that? Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week: Off & Running! 10/1/034:02 PM Solutions U .S.A., Inc. As one company, Konica Minolta Business Solutions has: · · A projected revenue of over $1.5 billion · · Over 6,000 employees supporting more than...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The First Week in October 2003
In the office on Friday we had a chat about the manufacturers in the industry. My thoughts centered around KonicaMinolta and the great job they're doing with diversifying. Ricoh was at the bottom of the list. Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week: Ricoh Offers Managed Print Services to Reduce Printing Complexity 10/2/0811:10 PM . In the past, printing was simple as everyone either shared one device or had a personal printer . Now the printing landscape is more complex with multiple...
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Selling Copiers in the Seventies with Steve Mcbride
About a month ago I had the opportunity to attend the BTA National event in New York City. While at the event I ran into Steve Mcbride, Steve is currently VP of Sales with Innovolt. We had an interesting discussions about the cool Bluetooth technology with the Innovolt Smart Protectors (you can get these from Polek & Polek ) and how techs can identify the voltage in the MFP through a smart phone. I also found out that Steve had started selling copiers in the late seventies. Thus, I asked...
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Selling Copiers in the Seventies with Darrell Leven
It was good to see Darrell Leven at the recent BTA National Event in New York City a few weeks ago. During one of the breaks we had the chance to chop it up a bit about the imaging industry. Where we started and how we go to where we are today. During that chat is when I found out that Darrell started selling copiers in the late seventies. I asked if he would mind contributing to our Selling Copiers in the Seventies blog. Here's Darrell! What year did you start in the industry and what was...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The 1st Week in November 2008
If last week was an indication of how sales will be for the end of the ear, then it's going to be a end of the year. But, resting on your laurels or pipeline is not a good idea, deals can drop off for a number of reasons. Before you know it, you have no pipeline for the end of the year Always keep prospecting! #alwaysbeprospecting Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! Weekend Copier Notes from 11/02/08 Neal · 11/4/086:52 AM 4260, running at 55ppm, but is A4. Canon announced it will...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The First Week in November 2003
Do you count how many selling days there are in every month? Do you minus those days for the corporate meetings, or hour the hours that you may leave early or get in late? They all add up, now with the Holiday Season upon us, November and December will offer the least few selling days of the year. Are you ready? Enjoy these awesome threads from 15 years ago this week! Xerox claims chip innovation Boston Mike · 11/3/038:38 AM , even on flexible surfaces. Xerox researchers in California then...
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How to Implement Your Own Flat Rate Program "registration link"
We're pretty excited about the response from P4P'ers. As of today we have 52 RSVPs. If you're interested and have not RSVP'd we can add another 23 members now. I expect this to be a max event so please make sure you RSVP here and I'll send you the registration link. For those that have RSVP'd the registration link is below. The date is set for November 19th at 4PM Eastern Standard Time. I copied the below content from the Webinar registration page. " In this highly anticipated webinar event,...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Last Week in October 2008
We're in to the last 8 weeks of the year. Prospecting that was done in July & August will now start to pay dividends and carry you through the end of the year. If you're just prospecting now for November and December then you're toast! Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! Weekend Copier Notes from 10/26/08 Neal · 10/27/087:45 AM WEEKEND MFP INDUSTRY NOTES 10-26-08 The following is a quick review of copier/MFP industry news from industry publications. Kodak ’s print controller...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Last Week in October 2003
Wile reading through the threads I re-read a post that I wrote about my brother fifteen years ago. It was this week fifteen years ago that he passed away. Even though we had our differences he is missed. Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week! Scan & Capture From the Copier 10/28/036:57 PM alike. When scans replace printouts and copies, it often translates into lower lease charges for dealers and diminished (high-margin) consumables revenue. In addition, selling and integrating...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Fourth Week in June 2003
Fifteen years ago, hard to believe that many of us have seen so much come and go during those years. The Ricoh Aficio 1224 was an A3 color device that printed 12 pages per minute in color and 24 pages per minute in black. We had some horrific problems with speed when the Ricoh 1224 would go into an auto calibration during a print or copy run. It would take up to 5 minutes to calibrate and then restart the print job, and yes we had many frustrated users because we weren't aware of how the...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Fourth Week in June 2008
Dang, me and the entire industry must have been on vacation this week! Enjoy these meager threads from ten years ago this week! Weekend Copier Notes from 06/22/08 Neal · 6/23/088:40 AM and management software to large corporate customers Graphic unit will offer printers and supplies to wide format users o Most of the U .S. employees of the printer division (3,400) work at the division headquarters in Boise, Idaho, which designs the products, while manufacturing is done overseas. - Ricoh...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Second Week in July 2003
It's Sunday night, I start vaca on Wednsday of this week. Not a lot of stuff from last week, except for the additional tariffs that will go into effect the first week of August. We're not sure if copiers are included this go around. Enjoy the threads from 156 years ago this week! Sales Training Help 7/15/034:56 PM December 31, 2011 - Sales Training Help - Click Here Industry Analysts, Inc. has been developing customized industry training programs and materials for over 30 years. Major...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Second Week in July 2008
Ten years ago, it still seems like yesterday. Color MFP's were all the rage and third party solutions started to take center stage. Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! RICOH ANNOUNCES NEW EFI COLOR PRINT CONTROLLER TO MAXIMIZE WORKFLOW AND PRODUCTIVITY 7/9/088:23 PM savings and productivity. The company's robust product portfolio includes Fiery( R ) digital color print servers; VUTEk( R ) superwide digital inkjet printers , UV and solvent inks; Jetrion( R ) industrial inkjet...
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A Few Copier Vignettes from the Late Eighties & Nineties
The picture in the header showed our demo room back in either 1989 or 1990, might have even been 1991. As you can see by the photo Atlantic Office Systems (the first one in NJ) was Authorized for Adler Royal, Brother, and Tele VaxaFax (facsimile). Sometime later Adler Royal was purchased by Mita and the Adler Royal brand was changed to Copystar. I thoroughly hated the name Copystar because there was no brand recognition, at least with Adler Royal, our clients knew about Royal typewriters. We...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The First Week in August 2008
A little of news this week is that the US Dollar is growing stronger vs the Japanese Yen. When this has happened in the past Japanese copier manufacturers have decreased pricing here in the States. When you couple this with the Chinese tariffs that may go into effect this week, it could mean that our industry may not see price increases. Japanese manufacturers might just bite the bullet on the increases in order to keep boxes moving out of the plants. BTW, the dude in the picture, had just a...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Second Week in August 2008
There's an interesting thread below titled A4 Device Poll. It's a short thread and I disable the poll site years ago. However, from reading the thread it was about ten years ago that A4 devices were starting to talk hold. What I can't believe is that the major A3 manufacturers have continued to lower prices on the A3 boxes and move very slowly with offering full functionality for A4 devices. It's been ten years! Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week. Topic Weekend Copier Notes from...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Fourth Week in July 2008
Last week seemed to be pretty interesting. I've been working on an order for about six months and was told the paperwork was ready to pick up tomorrow. As soon as I have the docs in hand I'll be writing about this, till then mums is the word. Weekend Copier Notes from 07/27/08 Neal · 7/28/0810:46 AM Russian investors are considering acquiring the company. - Kodak announced it has sold a NexPress 2500 production color system to Mailings Unlimited, a print and mailing house in Portland, Maine.
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Fourth Week in July 2003
It's hard top believe that Global has been around for more than 15 years now. There's a thread below about them making their 60th acquisition. My how time flies. UPDATE 3-Xerox profit slips 7/29/038:06 AM 10 percent of revenues, was down 11 percent. Xerox said revenue declines in developing markets are moderating, and it expects "continued improvement" in the second half of the year. Xerox said gross margin slipped to 42.4 percent from 42.5 percent amid plans to sell low- to mid-level...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The First Week in August 2003
There's an interesting thread below about the Riso V8000 which was a dual color single pass duplicator. At the time I was selling the Ricoh products and all we had was the Ricoh TCII. Where Riso developed a single device that was able to print colors, Ricoh came out with an optional slave device. You could not print to the Ricoh TCII, in order to get two colors in a single pass, you had to make the masters on a single color Ricoh duplicator. Once the masters were made you then had to...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The First Week in August 2003
Where on the web can you take a walk back down Memory Lane for the Copier Industry? We're proud that we have data going back 15 years for press releases, documents, pricing, leads, and our most valued data is the threads from our members over the years. It's those conversations about pricing, solutions, issues or just needed some help to close a deal that makes the Print4Pay a special place for our members! Enjoy these threads from 15 years ago this week! Buyers Laboratory Presents Ricoh...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Third Week in August 2003
Seems like I may have misplaced a week. Last weeks thread was the first week of August, however I had notes in from the second week. Well, it's time for the third week in August notes from 15 years ago. Check out the awesome story from Old Glory below or click here Remember the 1035 Scanner/copier story? High-Speed Copiers: 8/19/037:29 PM begin? Does it require a dedicated salesperson ? Who are the best prospects? What are the best selling strategies? Perhaps any discussion of the topic...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Last Week in August 2008
Well it was ten years ago this week that the news broke about Ricoh purchasing Ikon. Ten years later the Ikon purchase was a bust with Ricoh writing off millions in future profit & revenue. That's what happens when you purchase a company that can't spin a profit. Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! Weekend Copier Notes from 08/24/08 Neal · 8/28/087:52 AM in the United States: o The current Digital Print Center (DPC) sales & marketing division will be disbanded § This...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Last Week in August 2003
Below is probably one of the most mis-understood printers (well not actually a printer) of our time. The Seri Print 25 was a really cool in-line attachment to the Ricoh duplicators. You would replace the Ricoh ink with Seri Ink, and then you'd be able to print on any gloss coatings. The Seri printer used a UV light to cure the ink on the gloss coat. Alas the Seri is no more and Ricoh is just about out of the duplicator industry now. Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! Konica...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago, The Last Week in August 2013
I thought it would be time for something new. Each week we post threads from the last 10 year and 15 years on the Print4Pay Hotel. So we're going to give you another one. This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago. Enjoy these most excellent threads from just 5 years ago! Who Makes the Best Multifunctional Copy Machine? Art Post · 8/28/1310:23 PM manufacturers for multifunctional copiers. Here they are in the tiers. Tier I: Canon (includes Oce), Ricoh (includes Savin and Lanier), Xerox and...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The First Week in September 2003
Anders An, joined us 15 years ago. Anders An is the username for a great Print4Pay Hotel member from the Netherlands. I'm hoping Anders cab chime in at the end of this blog and tell us more about the username of Anders An and also share his real name. Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week! Printer Trade in Program Jay · 9/2/038:26 AM New(new to me anyway) trade in program for printers /desktops/notbooks/servers/ ect. http:// ricoh .tradeups.com Dear Ricoh Printer Partner, Here is an...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Second Week in September 2003
Haha! Something pretty funny in with one of the links below. "Moving closer to the paperless office". This was fifteen years ago. Do you remember the Ricoh C1224? Was a color MFP that had a speed of 12 pages per minute in color and 24 pages per minute in black. Needless to say that Ricoh never informed sales that the copier would go into auto calibrate during a print or copy run for up to minutes! Relive that experience with the threads below Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week.
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Second Week in September 2003
I took the time to re-read and correct some of the grammar and spelling issues that plagued me from many years ago. I'm a copier sales person and not an English major. Please excuse typo's or grammar. Anyway, I must have wrote this after the Ricoh purchase of Ikon and the title "MFP Wars". After the re-read, I realized that we're still fighting the MFP Wars, whether it's the low cost per pages that are low balled or the continuing battle of A3 vs A4. Somethings never change. Enjoy the...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago, The Second Week in September 2013
Here they are. Our top threads from five years ago in the Print4Pay Hotel RICOH UNVEILS NEW AWARD-WINNING SOLUTIONS AT PRINT 13, PROVIDING SUPERIOR CONTROL FOR PERSONALIZED DOCUMENTS Art Post · 9/9/138:07 PM shops today and allows operators to easily implement logic-based ticketing, and choose media and finishing options that apply to statements of variable lengths - achieving identical output across Ricoh , Xerox and Kodak devices, saving time and increasing asset utilization in the...
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The Copier Industry Fast Forward Twenty Years
The year is 2039. It's hard to believe that it's been 15 years since the mighty Xerox Corporation folded. One remembers that statement in December of 2018 that touted Xerox "Unable to Adjust". My how the mighty have fallen. It wasn't only Xerox that fell to the paperless society that we now see today. Canon Let's take a trip back to late 2022, it was late in November that Canon announced that they were going to cease to manufacturing A3 multi-functional devices. That decision was made...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago (Third Week of March 2014)
Wow! Hard to believe that the end of the first quarter is a mere two weeks away. Twenty five gone and Seventy five percent of the year left. How is your first quarter going? Would love to hear from you in the reply section of this blog! These were the top threads from 5 years ago this week. Enjoy Konica Minolta Honors Pacific Office Automation of Beaverton, Oregon with 2014 Pro-Tech Service Award for Service Excellence Art Post · 3/19/1410:16 PM Colorado. The company is also one of the...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago (Third Week of March 2009)
I'm booked for ITEX 2019! I'm pretty excited about going. I'll be arriving late on the 22nd and then taking the red eye out Thursday night. I'm hoping to see many P4P members, connect with new peeps along with visiting our sponsors and exhibitors. Hit up the reply and let me know if you'll be there! Enjoy these threads from ten years ago this week! Introducing the NEW bizhub PRO C65hc Digital Color Printing System 3/16/0912:58 PM Marketing Bulletin Bulletin #08-GB-120 Date: March 16, 2009...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago (Third Week of March 2004)
Can't wait for another four years! In 2023 I'll be able post twenty years of activity on this site. Can only wonder what the next four years will be like in this industry! Enjoy these awesome threads from 15 years ago this week! UPDATE - Konica Minolta 3/22/049:13 PM equipment maker said it aimed for a group operating profit of 160 billion yen ($1.5 billion) in the year ending in March 2007. Konica Minolta , created last August through the merger of precision equipment companies Konica Corp...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago (Second Week of April 2014)
When I started in the business I was told all you have to get through is the first five years and then the rest is gravy. Meaning you could live off your lease renewals. I'm thinking that was a BIG fat lie! Enjoy these threads from ten years ago this week! Ricoh's Streamline NX can help organizations improve document management productivity and reduce costs Art Post · 4/15/148:32 PM printers giving them the same user experience they have on Ricoh MFPs. Mobile printing with Hotspot Enterprise...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago (Second Week of April 2009)
Super thread below titled Where do you see this industry in 5 years???? A must read to see what everyone thought back in 2009 about 2014. Enjoy these threads from ten years ago this week! WEekend Copier Notes from 04/12/09 Neal · 4/13/097:17 AM print color systems, the PRO C 550EX and PRO C 700EX: - Base MSRPs of $54,290 & $62,690 - C 550EX offers 55ppm full color and 60ppm b/w - C 700EX offers 70ppm full color and 75ppm b/w - Uses engines from the MP C 6000 and C 7500 mid-range color...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Third Week in October 2008
I like to start these updates with some interesting things that happen to me in the last week or so. I received two leads and closed both of them from Linkedin. It was net new clients reaching out to me via Linkedin and requesting to set a meeting. Yes, this was the first I ever had two in one week. So I keep moving forward and keep growing my connections because you just never know when one of those calls might be for 20, 100 or 1,000 MFP's #nevergiveup Enjoy the threads from ten years ago...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Third Week in October 2003
Crap there's a ton of threads below! From 1998-2003 many of us in the copier industry ew nothing about network printing and scanning. In addition neither did our managers and techs. The Print4Pay Hotel allowed us have a community where we could share experiences technical stuff and help meet our client expectations. Fifteen years later and all dealerships have on staff IT people and knowledgeable technicians that can handle most everything. Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week!
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Second Week in November 2003
So it was fifteen years ago that Ricoh launched the first GBC puncher. I remember it well, chads were evenly distributed through out the entire device! One of my accounts had to vacuum their GBC puncher once a week. Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week! Toshiba America Business Solutions Introduces the Flagship Model in its Workgroup Color Printer Line Boston Mike · 11/10/036:05 PM in TABS color printer product line. Boasting a powerful 600 MHz processor and 256 MB of standard RAM...
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This Week in the Copier/Office Equipment Industry 15 Years Ago (Last Week of February 2004)
Just a short story from an order I had last week. The client was an existing account, almost five years ago it was net new. Thus I had some promo's I could throw at the client in order to secure the order. Now it comes time for the renewal almost 5 years later, there are some payments left in the lease. There is no way I can sell them at the same lease price per month. I also made an early mistake on the pricing when I met with the client. I never presented the lease price for the new...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago (First Week of March 2004)
Seems we're coming to the end of the first quarter already. After dumping everything into the end of 2018. I've had a rough go of it for the past 7 weeks. Last week proved to be better with two orders and one of them was $45K. We're also going see have then end of the fiscal years for most if not all of the copier manufacturers. This time of years scares me because nothing is safe, you need to ask the tough questions up front and try your best to wrap up business either the day you met with...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago (First Week of March 2009)
Rules of thumb...sell nothing but the need for an appointment on a phone call or initial call. Also never "sell" during your fact-finding for several reasons: 1.) The fact-finding process gets interrupted or stopped. 2.) You come across like a dog salivating over fresh meat. 3.) You tip your hand and lose some of the thunder you will get from your proposal. 4.) You inspire additional questions and thought processes that the prospect will then discuss with competitors. read the rest in the...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 5 Years Ago (First Week of March 2014)
Avoid Insulting the Customer Obvious, right? Well, people do it without even realizing by using comments like "did you understand that?" and "are you following what I'm saying?". This automatically shrinks the customers' intelligence and ability to catch on. It is down to your own ability to make the customer understand and therefore if you feel the customer is failing to do so, use comments such as "did I explain that clearly" and so on. Enjoy these threads from 5 years ago this week!
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Imaging Channel, Surveys can teach competitors a lot
I recently attended a webinar where the scariest thing was what was not said. The webinar was discussing the Imaging Channel; it included a recap of a survey given to dealer owners. The dealers answered the survey in a most disturbing way which no one is questioning, so I will. The survey determined that only 4% of dealers were concerned about A4 equipment which could easily replace the oversold A3's in 80-85% of the Imaging Channel's Customers. It appears the Imaging Channel is conceding...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Third Week in November 2008
Busy, busy week last week, at least for Monday and Tuesday. Wednesday turned out to be a dud with just a couple of small orders. We all know the story for Thursday & Friday. I took a well deserved break from the site for four days. End of the year, the month, the year and the quarter coming up. I LOVE THIS TIME OF YEAR! Enjoy the most popular threads from ten years ago this week. Ricoh, IKON, and the Next Great Bubble ''''1 11/15/084:31 PM acquisitions to date - or the next big bubble.
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This Week in the Copier in Industry, Third Week of November 2003
My sales month ended today, thus allowing time for our beloved bean counters the chance to close the month on the calendar end of month. don't mind and I'm kind of use to it. I figure that closing the month early gives me two end of the month chances to close some orders. Of course one is our actual close and the other is calendar end of month. December this year is a little frightening since Christmas falls on a Tuesday. Which means most will not be working on the 24th. Thus December only...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Last Week in November 2008
I guess the BIG news of the week from ten years ago was ere 50 cuts that Ricoh performed that week. However, that was right after the IKON purchase and within four months (end of Japanese) there was to be major cuts with high level legacy employees. Seems to me that one of the covenants if the Ricoh purchase was that all high level Ikon peeps would replace those at Ricoh. AS Vince would say "that's my two cents". Enjoy all of the threads from ten years ago this week. Weekend Copier Notes...
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This Week in the Copier in Industry, The Last Week of November 2003
Looking back there was one incredible thread from 15 years ago and that had to do with a new member that refused give information that we required in order to approve them for membership. Those days were the early days from when we transitioned from an MSN community to a real web site. Back then all we had was the forums. Graham & Ted were also key players in getting the forums launched back then. Enjoy the threads from 15 years ago this week and make sure you check out that thread!
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Xerox "Unable to Adjust"
About four weeks ago I was told that that Global Imaging was going to be absorbed by Xerox in the next few months. In addition it was mentioned that this absorption would result with the loss of many managerial positions. In fact one of those managers called me to ask a favor in reference to a past issue that was posted on this site. It didn't take long for me to put two and two together and I agreed that most of what I heard could come to fruition. After that initial conversation the last...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 10 Years Ago, The Last Week in December 2008
WooHoo, I'm on vacation this week, well at least from my day job! Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week! Weekend Copier Notes from 12/28/08 Neal · 12/29/087:08 AM , president of Xerox Office Group (XOG), Xerox products now account for only 55% of the MFPs that Global locations are selling . (now that Xerox is experiencing slower sales in the U .S., will it continue to allow other brands to be sold in its Global subsidiary?) In an article in The Wall Street Journal, Bill Jordan,...
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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago (First Week of February 2005)
Struggle, struggle and more struggle seems to the topic for the month of January. I'm in a slump and need to pull out of it. Today I had three planned calls after driving back from our 2020 Kick-off meeting yesterday. It was more of laying the seeds to reap in coming months, actually more like the third quarter for this year. Two calls went well and the other company moved on me. Thus, I need to do more leg work. Seems next week will be a complete week of working the phones and emails! Enjoy...