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Re: Canon is preparing to launch 5 new b/w A3 MFPs

GIntel ·
Thanks guys. Im all set now. Here is what I came up with... Mainly speed, paper capacity, and memory improvements: ir2525 vs ir2018 -Faster speed/print out time (25/5.4) vs (18/6.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or (256/256 for 2018i model) -Greater std/max paper cap (1,200/2,300) vs. (330/1,080) -Greater toner yield (14,600) vs (8,300) -Larger footprint ir2530 vs ir2020 -Faster speed/print out time (30/5.4) vs (20/7.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or...
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Re: Additional Insured?

JasonR ·
Thought this paragraph in an RFP in the leads section here was interesting... B. Automobile If the Proposer or its employees use motor vehicles in conducting activities under this Contract, liability insurance covering bodily injury and property damage shall be provided by the Proposer through a commercial automobile insurance policy. The policy shall cover all owned and non-owned vehicles. Such insurance shall have minimum limits of $500,000 per occurrence, combined single limit for bodily...
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Re: Are Step Leases ethical business practise?

Art Post (Guest) ·
Are we on the same wave length here?? Usually a 3-5 means that service and supplies are provided for three years, after three years the customer then has to pay for service, thus raising the cost to them. ie: $100 per month for 60 months includes 3 years of supplies and service for 100K, after the third year or whenever the supplies and service expire, the rep will come back in and refi the remaining 24 months with a new 3-5, they can usually sell this at a lower price that what the customer...
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Re: Time in business requirements

CashGap ·
I can agree that they leasing companies (and all lenders) acted foolishly in the past. Now the banks are acting like banks. That's not bad, though it may make it tougher to provide people with equipment you, I and they all know they have no business leasing. [If you were over 2 years in biz, 90% of the time no PG was required.] And now we know that two years in business is not adequate assurance of the company's ability to make the payments, so more assurance is required in the form of a PG.
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Re: End of Life

merlin ·
End of Life. 2090 duty cycle is 500,000 per month. 2105 duty cycle is 600,000 per month.
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Re: MFP Refurbishing & Recycling

SalesServiceGuy ·
In Nova Scotia, Canada we are no longer allowed to dispose of copiers by taking them to the landfill. We must pay a local moving company $30.00 per hour (or send our tech to their premises) to disassemble the copier into it glass, metal, plastic & electronic components. These components are then placed in different bins for recycling. It can take approx two hours. The tech does not have to be delicate in the disassembly so wire cutters, crowbars and sledge hammers are now part of our...
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Re: A4 Page Volumes

txeagle24 ·
One of my clients is a car dealership, and they recently replaced (2) Ricoh MP2510's & (2) Ricoh MP3010's with (4) Lexmark XS658dfe's. The average monthly volume on each of these is around 7,500, so considering that the Lexmarks are significantly more productive and haven't had any service calls in the first quarter, reliability doesn't appear to be an issue. As a point of reference, I have a customer that has a Lexmark XS463de (40ppm desktop mfp) that runs almost 11,000 per month and...
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Re: A4 Page Volumes

Art Post (Guest) ·
The most important question to ask is "how much do you copy 11x17"? If the answer is none, then the next question is "how often do you print 11x17"? When the answer is quite often, well A3 is then a no brainer, however if the answer is rarely, then I'll bundle an 11x17 laser or ink printer. Based on under 10K per month, A4 will save the customer on the TCO over the term of a 5 year lease.
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Re: First Look New Ricoh MPC2801_3301

txeagle24 ·
Spec sheet for the Lanier LD630c/635c and LD645c/655c attached.
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Re: First Look New Ricoh MPC2801_3301

txeagle24 ·
FAQ's attached.
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Re: Sharp to Introduce Five New Copier/Printer Models, Including a Digital Full-Color MFP

montecore ·
Art...."SC" means Scan Centric....these offer 1st in industry to scan 2 sided hard ID cards/checks via document feeder. They also have Scan squared technology. Card Shot from the doc feed...upto 1/2" stack of cards. Card shot in scanning mode not just copy mode. Color dropout...removes all color from scanned documents...all the remains is black data. The toner capacity has doubled in size at 20,000 now therefore the cost per copy can be very low. They also completely rebuilt the fuser system...
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Re: Contract: Dept. of Ecology spent $250k on copies never made

JasonR ·
Does most of the business world really have *no* minimum amount of copies included? Obviously, including 30% more than you are going to run is a bad idea, but if a minimum is set at a reasonable level, it's easier to budget your expenses. Also, reconciling those overages on a quarterly or semi-annual basis would help even out the peaks and valleys.
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Re: End of Life

tkern ·
Duty cycle is a calculation where you take 22 business days per month x 8 hours x 60 mins x XXppm. Then subtract out service calls and PM's, then you have your duty cycle. There may be a little more complexity than this, but that is basically how you get the Duty Cycle. You can usually divide this number by 10-20 to get the recommended monthly volume.
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Re: The reason why Ricoh Bought Ikon

txeagle24 ·
There are 3 Canon dealers of size in the Dallas market, & at least one of them is in virtually every deal. One that has a 90 minute response time has been growing like crazy since they came into the market in the mid-2000's. Those 3 dealers probably do $50mm-$65mm per year, & there's also a CBS branch here. Canon does a lot of business in DFW.
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Re: MP201

fisher ·
I have a 161 in a medical facility that has had high months of over 32,000 pages and averages over 25,000 pages per month. Its an extreme situation but the machine just runs. Never seen anything like it in a tabletop. JUST CHECKED THEIR LATEST INVOICE AND THEY ARE AT A METER READING OF 467,736 .
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Re: MP201

Art Post (Guest) ·
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Re: Canon iR2525 is Killer!

montecore ·
Thanks for the info. But I must say 3750 per month or 15,000 over 4 months and nothing for a 25ppm system. I would not say they take a beating with those numbers...now if you said 15,000 in ONE month then that would be something.
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Re: Drum Yields

SalesServiceGuy ·
A short discussion about copier vs printer yields. The document is a bit old but the main points are still valid.
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Re: Tameran Folders

fisher ·
I would not sell the 5100 or 7140 without a Tameran stacker or finisher of some sort attached too it. Last year I sold a 7140 (the 14 D per minute) to a busy contracting office. First one I ever did. Delivered the machine with Ricoh's standard output attachments. I found out real quick that in the real world the Ricoh output attachments are useless. The combination of the machine being so fast and multiple users sending various size prints to the machine before previous jobs were removed...
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Re: School estimates copiers are .14 cents less....

JasonR ·
Wow, that's a trainwreck of a sentence. Hrmmm. I think the audit must have been done by a guy trying to sell some copiers...
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Re: MPC 2000 upgrades

txeagle24 ·
It really depends on the user requirements and volume. If they need more robust paper-handling capabilities or advanced finishing and are above 5,000 per month in total volume, I step them up to the 30ppm model. If they run a lower volume with a basic configuration, I let them know that the lower-end model will meet their needs & handle their volume.
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Re: MPC 2000 upgrades

Art Post (Guest) ·
I'll be defining the need for an A3 device along with volume and then make a reccomendation. All of the MP2050's are performing in the field even with 4-7k per month.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

CopyFax Jax ·
I love it! Truth be told, if he makes his offices more efficient for everyone, he will attract more agents, buyers, and sellers and will pay for his copiers many times over and over.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

Chuck ·
[quote] Art those newsletters are duplexed so add another $135 for the second sides. Plus the MFP's color scanning will permit virtually cost-free emails of color listings to potential clients.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

Art Post (Guest) ·
I had another email from them and they are going to do 15-20,000 color pages per month. I then asked if he would like a Certifed P4P Member to help with quoting a viable product and TCO, they said yes! The lead went to Larry L since he covers that area for P4P. It's only $79.40 for a years membership you'll get access to all of the forums, plus get some leads out of the deal, why not activate a Premium Membership today (it's also keeps the boards basic membership free). Here's the link: ...
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Re: pay question

Bend ·
General rule that I always base it on is 10% of combined annual hardware and serv/sup revenue. Somebody selling $25,000 in hardware a month and then having a service base of $25,000 per month should be generating a gross income of about $5,000 per month.
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Re: Judge approves a $4.9 million settlement to businesses who were charged payment incre

Art Post (Guest) ·
A judge ruled in favor of a class action lawsuit involving businesses nationwide, including ones from South Florida. South Florida businesses that are part of a larger class action lawsuit against two companies were awarded a portion of a final settlement of $4.9 million after the judge ruled in the class’s favor, a press release said. “Approximately nine thousand class members nationwide were included in the settlement,” said Lance Harke, lead attorney for the case from law firm Harke...
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Re: print job pricing

Art Post (Guest) ·
Louis: Trying to remember the name of the report, ah yes, Larry Hunt. Kinda pricey for the reports and it's a hot and miss when he publishes the cost per page that printers are charging for color and black. I used to get em for free, however my source dried up for this, he figured that since he buys several production units every three years he can start a subsription when he's ready to buy again, anyway here;s the link: http://www.larryhunt.com/in-the-news Anyone know of any other sources???
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Re: JOINT STATEMENT BY SHARP ELECTRONICS CORPORATION AND EDWARD MCLAUGHLIN

braxtoq ·
I understand where you're coming from, I believe, you may be talking about the ability to actually delete up to 4 areas per document through the display. What I am speaking about regarding flexibility is to have 1 button on the home screen that does multiple steps like 3 hole punch, saddle stitch and pull covers with a custom watermark, with a picure of the user that requires these functions, or email destinations with the name of the recipieint and their custom file type as a 1 touch...
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Re: Ricoh Launches New Aficio MFPs With App2Me Solution

JasonR ·
Without limits? If you sold a 171 and the customer had 50 workstations, you would install the print driver (and then the fax driver) on every one of them? My suggestion is to incorporate a reasonable limit to the installs. The customer needs to learn how to install the driver anyway since I doubt you would come back out in six months to install a driver on their new PC. Five workstations per device seems to work well. That's enough to make sure everything is working and train the customer...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

txeagle24 ·
Assuming we've used the 2 hours per machine connectivity time that we include for each install and that this isn't resolving issues that we created, this would be billable at an hourly rate in the neighborhood of $100 per hour. Depending on availability, the work would be done by either an SE, break/fix tech or a member of our Network Services team. We are an independent dealer in the Southwest that provides either hourly support, block time or full-on Managed Network Services. We can do the...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

SalesServiceGuy ·
1st 90 days, all inclusive, with no time limit on hours required to get the customer to say they are happy. Thereafter, billable at $95.00 per hour onsite. Dealer, Canada
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

Art Post (Guest) ·
Dealer network install for scan, print, fax upto four workstations included in the sale, sales person is charged back in the deal for it. After the sale, customer can buy block time for network services or be charged $150 per hour. Pretty much is a user goes to win7 and needs new drivers it's 100% billable or they can buy block time.
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Re: Copier Compensation Plans

Art Post (Guest) ·
This was emailed to me from a P4P'er who wishes to remain anonymous. Art, This past April I had the opportunity to leave the industry but I have kept an eye on it since then. This topic definitely perked my interest because I feel like I was both the beneficiary and victim of a Gross Profit Comp Plan at my last gig. I have been on both sides of this topic, Revenue & GP plans, and I never made more than $51K in a given year and yet I was always 100% of plan. My final year under this GP...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

tkern ·
Mid-sized dealership in Midwest- We have recently added a section to our maintenance agreement where the customer has to check either a network services rider($195-295 per year depending on the customer) or check the box that says if you don't check the above box, you will be billed $xxx per hour for network services. This doesn't mean as a salesperson we can't either remote in or stop out and load a print driver, but the customer up-front knows that we now charge for IT services. A couple...
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Re: Selling Copiers "Got my Ass kicked in Today"

fisher ·
Assuming that this is a municipal account in the state of New Jersey.....this would be the Kyocera 48-month cost per copy program on state contract. You pretty much can't beat it on price unless you also have the state contract cost per page program. Your only hope is to sell yourself and the value of your company and also to get them to get a demonstration of the equipment before signing the contract. The Kyo equipment is not as nice as the Ricoh gear or as user friendly in my humble...
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Re: Printing Envelopes Reliably on MPC300

jswinberlin ·
I think Old Glory means A4. Remember, 4 is less than 3 (it's a metric thing). You should be able to create an "envelope printer" by installing a second instance of the printer with the same IP address. In the PCL 6 driver (not universal), you can go into the printer properties, print preferences, detailed settings and rotate the image 180 degrees. When you say the printer "red lights", what is the error? Is it a paper type mismatch? If so, what is it calling for? How may envelopes are they...
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Re: Printing Envelopes Reliably on MPC300

Art Post (Guest) ·
Old Glory: I finally sold one last week!! About the begging and pleading for an A4. What I really wanted was an A4 black device and a system that had the same cpp model as our A3's. I see the current MPC 300/400 very hard to sell especially and they don't justify a cos per copy well when you are replacing an A3 device.
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Re: Oxford Hills School District replacing copiers

JasonR ·
Old Budget is $101,500. New "total cost" for "lease-purchase of copiers and service" is $92,000. Cost per page is $0.04. Volume is 7 million per year. 7 million x $0.04 = $280,000 per year just for the clicks. I'm going to guess this is simply a case of bad reporting and not a case of the school board being unable to add.
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Re: What is pdf/a?

Old Glory ·
Back in August 2010 I was told the following, "Although PPDM does address the PDF/A format, the copiers only support PDF/I for image.... Type f and later copiers will support PPDM without fail, the older copiers are an "iffy" solution as per Ricoh Tech Support." This was in response to the US District Court asking for PDF-A formatting.
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Re: MOM Sues OSU for $1M over COMDOC Secret...

Art Post (Guest) ·
An office-company filed a lawsuit against Ohio State, saying the university wrongly awarded a potential $24 million printer and copier contract to a competitor. Modern Office Methods filed the lawsuit on Sept. 26 in the Court of Claims, requesting that OSU set aside its recently awarded contract with ComDoc, Inc. and rebid it. According to the documents, Modern Office Methods said a ComDoc employee met with an OSU employee, unknowingly to the other top-two competitors, Modern Office Methods...
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Re: Huge MPS RFP!!

JasonR ·
It is interesting. Based on the figures they provided, their cost per page is ~2 cents. I find this hard to believe. Either a large amount of the 200k prints is done on a very efficient device or they are printing pages with very low coverage. They have more 1102w's than any other device. at 5% coverage, that device costs $0.0425 just for toner. I'm doubtful the total expense can be half that.
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Re: print outside of margins

Jomama ·
I agree, the driver is what is controlling the margins, not the printer per se. Call the vendor of the program and see if there is an update or if they have a suggestion.
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Re: MPS Billing Question

Printfun ·
As you have already speculated, there are many different ways to charge for MPS. Our most common is CPC(includes consumables, maintenance kits, service and helpdesk) with a minimum based on projected volumes determined by a print assessment. We also do deals that are not CPC, but the customer pays per cartridge for toner, and everything else is covered under a base charge per machine. Again, you must understand their volume for it to be profitable. I have seen some pretty convoluted billing...
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Re: Ricoh unveils space-saving A4 multi-functional printers for offices and workgroups

Art Post (Guest) ·
Let's face facts, we all need to drive revenue, however we all still need to make commissions. Do the math, up until about 7,000 pages per month an A4 will have a lower TCO than an A3. If the customer does not need 11x17, then I'm goign with the A4....period. I'll have to move more boxes, but in the long run I think I'll make more.
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Re: Printing from Mac OS 10.6 and iPad

Art Post (Guest) ·
John: I do not believe the MAC PS drivers support locked print, however if you need this, a good work around is Print Audit Secure, very inexpensive, plus you can release jobs from any web enabled device such as smart phone tablet, etc..... All of the Ricohs that have a ps card can do email2print basically you're sending an email to the device and it will print the file. an't do multiples nor compressed files, this is a nice work around instead of hot spot if the only need to print one file...
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Re: Top Color Production Systems?

Shaja ·
I didn't include the C65hc in my list because the C70hc would be the "latest and greatest" per the OP's question. The C65hc is still considered a current model.
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Re: Comments on the Canon 1730/1740/1750 Models

Art Post (Guest) ·
The Ricohs have been slow sellers is not because of end user needs or wants. Basically ours is a quota/revenue driven business from the top to the bottom. The preferred compensation model for commissions is that of a revenue based plan with commissions. Why have a GP driven comp plan for your sales people when your Dealership or Branch has a revenue based quota plan from the manufacturers? It just doesn't make sense. With that A4's from Canon, Sharp, Ricoh, and KonicaMinolta has presented...
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Re: Would You Loan this company Money?

Jrlz ·
Hi Art, I agree. Ricoh needs an entry level 4 D/min system. I have always thought Ricoh should take thier gel sprinter technology and develop a plotter around it, instead they rely on Epson to fill this void. They seem ready to concede the 4 d market to Oce, Kip and the plotter cometitors. I wonder if it is the aftermarket that drives the decision. With a 4 D-Size per minute you are generating less clicks and less aftermarket revenue. Perhaps they want use limited dollars to develope higher...
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Re: It's Official, RICOH US launch of SP5200 Black A4

tkern ·
Jomama: I am not a technician but how well do the Lexmark and HP AIO products run at 47+ pages per minute? Again, I have no technical experience but they seem to run fairly well from what I understand.
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