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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh

Guest ·
Go this via email today: Canon intends to make an offer of € 8.60 per Share for 100% of the outstanding Shares of Océ, representing a premium of 70% over Océ's stock price. There does not appear to be opposition to the deal either from European regulators or Océ board members. Océ will remain a separate legal entity as a Canon division, headquartered in Venlo (the Netherlands). The Océ brand is to be maintained and applied in all relevant markets. Océ will continue to lead its R&D and...
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Re: A Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Copier Demo/Appointment

txeagle24 ·
Here's one from a private school customer of mine a few years ago: We had just upgraded their fleet of Gestetner 3355's to a brand new fleet of Gestetner DSm660's. A teacher wanted to make copies of a book onto transparencies, and walked up to one of the new machines and ran them thru the bypass. The machine jammed up and completely stopped. So, thinking there must be something wrong w/ the set up of the new machine, she walked to another one of the BRAND NEW MACHINES and tried to run...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh

Guest ·
SCENARIOS-Will Canon succeed in its bid for Oce? * Canon offering 730 million euros to buy Oce * Shareholder Orbis with 10 percent stake opposes offer * Oce shares remain above Canon's 8.60 euro offer By Harro ten Wolde AMSTERDAM, Nov 20 (Reuters) -Japan's Canon (7751.T) plans to buy Dutch copier and printer maker Oce (OCEN.AS) for 730 million euros ($1.09 billion), but large Oce shareholder Orbis said the offer undervalued the company. In response, Oce shares passed Canon's 70 percent...
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Re: Scan in One City, Print in Another

SalesServiceGuy ·
Good suggestion but expensive for a 20 copier install. ShareScan is a hardware add on level of technology to support and maintain that I was hoping to avoid. I was looking at eCopy Paperworks but this law firm has approx. 500 PCs. At around $180.00 per workstation this gets very expensive. Plus I am unsure if the law firm would move away from Adobe PDF. In the end, for me, for this quote, eCopy Share Scan is likely the best solution. It gives me a single solution for the required features of...
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Re: A4s and Single Function Laser in MPS

JasonR ·
My first thought is that your post has a lot of jargon in it I don't understand. (I'm directly responsible for MPS, so it's not that I'm unfamiliar with the terms). When Art can't understand your question about and industry he's been in for 20+ years, it's time to back up and re-write . Secondly, regarding your questions about placing supplemental A4 MFPs around, it all depends upon the customer. I have some customers that have central MFPs and NO additional MFP capability. I have others...
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Re: Ricoh Pro C720

bandit41076 ·
Ricoh Americas Corporation announced today the official launch of the Ricoh Pro C720/C720s, a production class multi-functional color system and the latest addition to Ricoh’s Pro series of products, designed specifically for the production environment. This flexible system targets corporate and commercial professional print environments with demanding application needs. The Pro C720/C720s has a robust duty cycle of 320,000 images per month, and runs at 72 pages-per-minute (PPM) regardless...
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Re: Is there a different approach?

GMAN ·
OK
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Re: Ricoh Production Printing

Guest ·
I have a couple of MP1350's doing average of 400K per month, that's about it for me.
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Re: Ricoh Production Printing

Guest ·
I have a MP1350 that on average does 850k per month for the last 24 months so I believe that you could do it with a few of the new 135 ppm Ricoh’s
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Re: Canon is preparing to launch 5 new b/w A3 MFPs

GIntel ·
Thanks guys. Im all set now. Here is what I came up with... Mainly speed, paper capacity, and memory improvements: ir2525 vs ir2018 -Faster speed/print out time (25/5.4) vs (18/6.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or (256/256 for 2018i model) -Greater std/max paper cap (1,200/2,300) vs. (330/1,080) -Greater toner yield (14,600) vs (8,300) -Larger footprint ir2530 vs ir2020 -Faster speed/print out time (30/5.4) vs (20/7.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or...
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Re: Additional Insured?

JasonR ·
Thought this paragraph in an RFP in the leads section here was interesting... B. Automobile If the Proposer or its employees use motor vehicles in conducting activities under this Contract, liability insurance covering bodily injury and property damage shall be provided by the Proposer through a commercial automobile insurance policy. The policy shall cover all owned and non-owned vehicles. Such insurance shall have minimum limits of $500,000 per occurrence, combined single limit for bodily...
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Re: Are Step Leases ethical business practise?

Guest ·
Are we on the same wave length here?? Usually a 3-5 means that service and supplies are provided for three years, after three years the customer then has to pay for service, thus raising the cost to them. ie: $100 per month for 60 months includes 3 years of supplies and service for 100K, after the third year or whenever the supplies and service expire, the rep will come back in and refi the remaining 24 months with a new 3-5, they can usually sell this at a lower price that what the customer...
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Re: End of Life

merlin ·
End of Life. 2090 duty cycle is 500,000 per month. 2105 duty cycle is 600,000 per month.
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Re: MFP Refurbishing & Recycling

SalesServiceGuy ·
In Nova Scotia, Canada we are no longer allowed to dispose of copiers by taking them to the landfill. We must pay a local moving company $30.00 per hour (or send our tech to their premises) to disassemble the copier into it glass, metal, plastic & electronic components. These components are then placed in different bins for recycling. It can take approx two hours. The tech does not have to be delicate in the disassembly so wire cutters, crowbars and sledge hammers are now part of our...
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Re: A4 Page Volumes

txeagle24 ·
One of my clients is a car dealership, and they recently replaced (2) Ricoh MP2510's & (2) Ricoh MP3010's with (4) Lexmark XS658dfe's. The average monthly volume on each of these is around 7,500, so considering that the Lexmarks are significantly more productive and haven't had any service calls in the first quarter, reliability doesn't appear to be an issue. As a point of reference, I have a customer that has a Lexmark XS463de (40ppm desktop mfp) that runs almost 11,000 per month and...
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Re: A4 Page Volumes

Guest ·
The most important question to ask is "how much do you copy 11x17"? If the answer is none, then the next question is "how often do you print 11x17"? When the answer is quite often, well A3 is then a no brainer, however if the answer is rarely, then I'll bundle an 11x17 laser or ink printer. Based on under 10K per month, A4 will save the customer on the TCO over the term of a 5 year lease.
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Re: First Look New Ricoh MPC2801_3301

txeagle24 ·
Spec sheet for the Lanier LD630c/635c and LD645c/655c attached.
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Re: First Look New Ricoh MPC2801_3301

txeagle24 ·
FAQ's attached.
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Re: Sharp to Introduce Five New Copier/Printer Models, Including a Digital Full-Color MFP

montecore ·
Art...."SC" means Scan Centric....these offer 1st in industry to scan 2 sided hard ID cards/checks via document feeder. They also have Scan squared technology. Card Shot from the doc feed...upto 1/2" stack of cards. Card shot in scanning mode not just copy mode. Color dropout...removes all color from scanned documents...all the remains is black data. The toner capacity has doubled in size at 20,000 now therefore the cost per copy can be very low. They also completely rebuilt the fuser system...
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Re: Contract: Dept. of Ecology spent $250k on copies never made

JasonR ·
Does most of the business world really have *no* minimum amount of copies included? Obviously, including 30% more than you are going to run is a bad idea, but if a minimum is set at a reasonable level, it's easier to budget your expenses. Also, reconciling those overages on a quarterly or semi-annual basis would help even out the peaks and valleys.
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Re: End of Life

tkern ·
Duty cycle is a calculation where you take 22 business days per month x 8 hours x 60 mins x XXppm. Then subtract out service calls and PM's, then you have your duty cycle. There may be a little more complexity than this, but that is basically how you get the Duty Cycle. You can usually divide this number by 10-20 to get the recommended monthly volume.
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Re: The reason why Ricoh Bought Ikon

txeagle24 ·
There are 3 Canon dealers of size in the Dallas market, & at least one of them is in virtually every deal. One that has a 90 minute response time has been growing like crazy since they came into the market in the mid-2000's. Those 3 dealers probably do $50mm-$65mm per year, & there's also a CBS branch here. Canon does a lot of business in DFW.
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Re: MP201

fisher ·
I have a 161 in a medical facility that has had high months of over 32,000 pages and averages over 25,000 pages per month. Its an extreme situation but the machine just runs. Never seen anything like it in a tabletop. JUST CHECKED THEIR LATEST INVOICE AND THEY ARE AT A METER READING OF 467,736 .
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Re: MP201

Guest ·
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Re: Canon iR2525 is Killer!

montecore ·
Thanks for the info. But I must say 3750 per month or 15,000 over 4 months and nothing for a 25ppm system. I would not say they take a beating with those numbers...now if you said 15,000 in ONE month then that would be something.
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Re: Drum Yields

SalesServiceGuy ·
A short discussion about copier vs printer yields. The document is a bit old but the main points are still valid.
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Re: Tameran Folders

fisher ·
I would not sell the 5100 or 7140 without a Tameran stacker or finisher of some sort attached too it. Last year I sold a 7140 (the 14 D per minute) to a busy contracting office. First one I ever did. Delivered the machine with Ricoh's standard output attachments. I found out real quick that in the real world the Ricoh output attachments are useless. The combination of the machine being so fast and multiple users sending various size prints to the machine before previous jobs were removed...
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Re: School estimates copiers are .14 cents less....

JasonR ·
Wow, that's a trainwreck of a sentence. Hrmmm. I think the audit must have been done by a guy trying to sell some copiers...
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Re: MPC 2000 upgrades

txeagle24 ·
It really depends on the user requirements and volume. If they need more robust paper-handling capabilities or advanced finishing and are above 5,000 per month in total volume, I step them up to the 30ppm model. If they run a lower volume with a basic configuration, I let them know that the lower-end model will meet their needs & handle their volume.
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Re: MPC 2000 upgrades

Guest ·
I'll be defining the need for an A3 device along with volume and then make a reccomendation. All of the MP2050's are performing in the field even with 4-7k per month.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

CopyFax Jax ·
I love it! Truth be told, if he makes his offices more efficient for everyone, he will attract more agents, buyers, and sellers and will pay for his copiers many times over and over.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

Chuck ·
[quote] Art those newsletters are duplexed so add another $135 for the second sides. Plus the MFP's color scanning will permit virtually cost-free emails of color listings to potential clients.
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Re: Ask Art "Email from MFP Solutions Blog Reader"

Guest ·
I had another email from them and they are going to do 15-20,000 color pages per month. I then asked if he would like a Certifed P4P Member to help with quoting a viable product and TCO, they said yes! The lead went to Larry L since he covers that area for P4P. It's only $79.40 for a years membership you'll get access to all of the forums, plus get some leads out of the deal, why not activate a Premium Membership today (it's also keeps the boards basic membership free). Here's the link: ...
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Re: print job pricing

Guest ·
Louis: Trying to remember the name of the report, ah yes, Larry Hunt. Kinda pricey for the reports and it's a hot and miss when he publishes the cost per page that printers are charging for color and black. I used to get em for free, however my source dried up for this, he figured that since he buys several production units every three years he can start a subsription when he's ready to buy again, anyway here;s the link: http://www.larryhunt.com/in-the-news Anyone know of any other sources???
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Re: JOINT STATEMENT BY SHARP ELECTRONICS CORPORATION AND EDWARD MCLAUGHLIN

braxtoq ·
I understand where you're coming from, I believe, you may be talking about the ability to actually delete up to 4 areas per document through the display. What I am speaking about regarding flexibility is to have 1 button on the home screen that does multiple steps like 3 hole punch, saddle stitch and pull covers with a custom watermark, with a picure of the user that requires these functions, or email destinations with the name of the recipieint and their custom file type as a 1 touch...
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Re: Ricoh Launches New Aficio MFPs With App2Me Solution

JasonR ·
Without limits? If you sold a 171 and the customer had 50 workstations, you would install the print driver (and then the fax driver) on every one of them? My suggestion is to incorporate a reasonable limit to the installs. The customer needs to learn how to install the driver anyway since I doubt you would come back out in six months to install a driver on their new PC. Five workstations per device seems to work well. That's enough to make sure everything is working and train the customer...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

txeagle24 ·
Assuming we've used the 2 hours per machine connectivity time that we include for each install and that this isn't resolving issues that we created, this would be billable at an hourly rate in the neighborhood of $100 per hour. Depending on availability, the work would be done by either an SE, break/fix tech or a member of our Network Services team. We are an independent dealer in the Southwest that provides either hourly support, block time or full-on Managed Network Services. We can do the...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

SalesServiceGuy ·
1st 90 days, all inclusive, with no time limit on hours required to get the customer to say they are happy. Thereafter, billable at $95.00 per hour onsite. Dealer, Canada
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

Guest ·
Dealer network install for scan, print, fax upto four workstations included in the sale, sales person is charged back in the deal for it. After the sale, customer can buy block time for network services or be charged $150 per hour. Pretty much is a user goes to win7 and needs new drivers it's 100% billable or they can buy block time.
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Re: Copier Compensation Plans

Guest ·
This was emailed to me from a P4P'er who wishes to remain anonymous. Art, This past April I had the opportunity to leave the industry but I have kept an eye on it since then. This topic definitely perked my interest because I feel like I was both the beneficiary and victim of a Gross Profit Comp Plan at my last gig. I have been on both sides of this topic, Revenue & GP plans, and I never made more than $51K in a given year and yet I was always 100% of plan. My final year under this GP...
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Re: Q. How does your company handle networking charges?

tkern ·
Mid-sized dealership in Midwest- We have recently added a section to our maintenance agreement where the customer has to check either a network services rider($195-295 per year depending on the customer) or check the box that says if you don't check the above box, you will be billed $xxx per hour for network services. This doesn't mean as a salesperson we can't either remote in or stop out and load a print driver, but the customer up-front knows that we now charge for IT services. A couple...
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Re: Selling Copiers "Got my Ass kicked in Today"

fisher ·
Assuming that this is a municipal account in the state of New Jersey.....this would be the Kyocera 48-month cost per copy program on state contract. You pretty much can't beat it on price unless you also have the state contract cost per page program. Your only hope is to sell yourself and the value of your company and also to get them to get a demonstration of the equipment before signing the contract. The Kyo equipment is not as nice as the Ricoh gear or as user friendly in my humble...
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Re: Printing Envelopes Reliably on MPC300

jswinberlin ·
I think Old Glory means A4. Remember, 4 is less than 3 (it's a metric thing). You should be able to create an "envelope printer" by installing a second instance of the printer with the same IP address. In the PCL 6 driver (not universal), you can go into the printer properties, print preferences, detailed settings and rotate the image 180 degrees. When you say the printer "red lights", what is the error? Is it a paper type mismatch? If so, what is it calling for? How may envelopes are they...
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Re: Printing Envelopes Reliably on MPC300

Guest ·
Old Glory: I finally sold one last week!! About the begging and pleading for an A4. What I really wanted was an A4 black device and a system that had the same cpp model as our A3's. I see the current MPC 300/400 very hard to sell especially and they don't justify a cos per copy well when you are replacing an A3 device.
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Re: Oxford Hills School District replacing copiers

JasonR ·
Old Budget is $101,500. New "total cost" for "lease-purchase of copiers and service" is $92,000. Cost per page is $0.04. Volume is 7 million per year. 7 million x $0.04 = $280,000 per year just for the clicks. I'm going to guess this is simply a case of bad reporting and not a case of the school board being unable to add.
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Re: What is pdf/a?

Old Glory ·
Back in August 2010 I was told the following, "Although PPDM does address the PDF/A format, the copiers only support PDF/I for image.... Type f and later copiers will support PPDM without fail, the older copiers are an "iffy" solution as per Ricoh Tech Support." This was in response to the US District Court asking for PDF-A formatting.
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Re: MOM Sues OSU for $1M over COMDOC Secret...

Guest ·
An office-company filed a lawsuit against Ohio State, saying the university wrongly awarded a potential $24 million printer and copier contract to a competitor. Modern Office Methods filed the lawsuit on Sept. 26 in the Court of Claims, requesting that OSU set aside its recently awarded contract with ComDoc, Inc. and rebid it. According to the documents, Modern Office Methods said a ComDoc employee met with an OSU employee, unknowingly to the other top-two competitors, Modern Office Methods...
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Re: Huge MPS RFP!!

JasonR ·
It is interesting. Based on the figures they provided, their cost per page is ~2 cents. I find this hard to believe. Either a large amount of the 200k prints is done on a very efficient device or they are printing pages with very low coverage. They have more 1102w's than any other device. at 5% coverage, that device costs $0.0425 just for toner. I'm doubtful the total expense can be half that.
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Re: print outside of margins

Jomama ·
I agree, the driver is what is controlling the margins, not the printer per se. Call the vendor of the program and see if there is an update or if they have a suggestion.
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Re: MPS Billing Question

Printfun ·
As you have already speculated, there are many different ways to charge for MPS. Our most common is CPC(includes consumables, maintenance kits, service and helpdesk) with a minimum based on projected volumes determined by a print assessment. We also do deals that are not CPC, but the customer pays per cartridge for toner, and everything else is covered under a base charge per machine. Again, you must understand their volume for it to be profitable. I have seen some pretty convoluted billing...
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