The 501/601 are based on a Kyocera MFP without a stapler, so Ricoh didn't have much of a choice on that one. Agreed that its a disadvantage against other A4s, so with Ricoh you will either have to sell the C401 with a finisher or an A3 MFP for the foreseeable future.
Top three points I make when against Kyocera. #1. Take them color samples from your device and any Kyocera because the color output is sub par on all units. If you don’t have access to one look in your crm for an account you co-exist with Kyocera in. Or the next time you have a knock out make some samples and keep them in a binder. If color quality is important to the customer it will be a win. Another point is showing them you get what you pay for, meaning 3 tier color is what they have...
Copystar/Kyocera 7052ci and 8052ci are still current models as the 7353ci and 8353ci were just released. same goes the the 70/80ppm mono's. not sure when they will get discontinued but we can still order them as of today.
Great to hear good things happening with Ricoh Production equipment. It's interesting to hear 13 x 25" paper?? Magnetics? No doubt the image quality is very good. We have several C651/C751's out and this year could include several more!
I wanted to respond to the "Best Software & Services Providers" Award. It's my understanding and I could be wrong, is that a dealer survey is sent to "x" dealers with the above questions. There were four nominees that I heard of and they were: ACDI FM Audit Paper Cut Square 9 Where is DocuWare, Nuance, Print Audit, PSIGEN, MWAI and the others? Which got me to thinking. Is Cannata using the same pool of dealers every year for the voting? I'm thinking maybe yes, because these players in...
I agree Rick Taylor has done a superb job at KM but I think he does win it every year. Rightfully so in my opinion, but I also believe Cannata uses the same dealers every year. Since I met them a couple years ago and we use 4 or 5 partners on the lists now we have been included in the voting for the last 2 years.
Not just color. We could see a big consolidation of speed bands too. If certain manufacturers can make low cost 40 and 50ppm engines that retail for under $4,000 do we really need to have 25ppm engines that retail for over $5,000?
If they offer them for the price of black & white units, yes. If they try to have the same price point as current color systems, they would lose out on price to any manufacturers that continue to make b/w only systems. Additionally, they would have to have a multi-tier billing system for color so as to not scare off people that have intentionally stayed away from color. The industry billing systems (e-Automate, OMD) would need to make that easy to manage & bill as well.
Agreed that the cost of color would have to be the same as the current black systems. I for one would like to only offer color, I think it would be better for the industry. I also believe that the color machines don't cost that much more to make the black systems. I'd bet that the margins are the 20-25-30 ppm nlack systems are huge from the manufacturing side.
I spoke to Epson while at the BTA show on Orlando about this system. The System ships will all of that ink!! I did not even ask what the cost of the replacement cartridges were, I should have. Interesting to see if this system will pan out. Note the "buns" that are on each side of the system. On each side there are two huge bags of ink. Kinda reminds me of Princess Leia hair style!
ty for this. Doing the math, black is .00865 and color is .005493 correct. Or are we adding 649 + 1,236 for a total of 1,885 and the dividing by 75,000 to get the cost per page. In that case the cpc would be .0251. tkern, have you sold any of these yet? Thoughts on the product?
We are not a reseller for Epson at this time. We are merely testing the equipment and have been for some time. All they gave me is the "list price" for each bag of toner which is what I posted. I would assume CPC would be calculated the same way as a toner based machine. Based on my evaluation we would not be a reseller of the current machine and would wait until a page-wide array machine would come out to consider. The 24ppm is not accurate when printing high quality documents.
Product acceptance may be the key. Have you ever seen a business class ink product that can match the image quality of a toner machine? I know they can in the production space. If they can go head to head with toner in the business class, then you have a possible game changer. My 2 cents...
Ink is here to stay, however it seems like a slow adoption rate from many of the major manufacturers in the SMB market. Ink based MFP's could be the salvation to many service departments that have aging service technicians.
For me, it would be roughly 15%, verticals would be healthcare and law. When an A4 does take the place of an A3, do customers have concerns about the higher CPC? When I see that there are zero to a small number of 11x17 pages printed. CPC not that big of a deal, and I don't do bids so I cant comment on that. @Monte @Jason H @Old Glory @jredmon @John
From what I seen in the past and what I showed the customer was that many times they could almost double their speed but keeping their price about the same. I sold a ton of Lexmarks and Samsung A4 devices. And yes I would live to see some heavy duty A4s to go into schools, municipalities, and larger companies.
How would you define "Heavy duty A4's"? There is a reason why Ricoh has both the MP 6055 and the MP 6503. Placing an A4 vs. an MP 6055 can be a big enough stretch depending on desired accessories but it will be awhile before I would ever consider placing an A4 where I feel an MP 6503 is required.
I sell a lot of A4 into my medical accounts and small business accounts. It really comes down to page volume and how the machine is to be used. I have yet to see an A4 that is built tough, has a low CPC, has a good document feeder, is user friendly and can handle 20,000 pages per month. Not to mention the lack of stapling and tray shift finishing.
The MP C2011SP is a exclusive model for Taiwan/China/European Union. There is references to this model in MP C2003/ MPC2503 service/parts manual. The Ricoh Product code for that model is D237. The D176 (MPC2003) & D177 (MPC2503) are for US. With all that said....That doesn't mean Ricoh could change their mind and release that model in the US. But from the manual, it would look redundant to current gen equivalent models. I'll keep my eye open.
Today, HP Inc. announced a new expansion of account opportunities for U.S. print premier channel partners. Beginning immediately, thousands of Managed Print Services (MPS) Speciality accounts that were previously directly engaged by HP will begin to be made available as premier channel opportunities. The program is a next step in the company’s office printing strategy to concurrently grow contractual and channel this year, while earning incremental market share in both the A3 and A4...
Product Safety Australia has issued a fire hazard warning to users of an old Kyocera Document Solutions printer. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)’s information arm flagged faults with Kyocera’s A3 multi-functional printer (MFP) that was sold between 2004 and 2010. The recall applies to models KM 1620, 1635, 1650, 2050 and 2550, which have been discontinued in 2010. Specifically, when users install an optional '300 sheet feeding unit / PF – 410' to the printer, detach...
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