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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 29"

Martin Hofman ·
Hi Art, Google search for JerseyPlotters also on page 1 in Europe! Enjoy! Martin
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Re: Need HELP! Kyocera Color A3 question

dimaxusa ·
Top three points I make when against Kyocera. #1. Take them color samples from your device and any Kyocera because the color output is sub par on all units. If you don’t have access to one look in your crm for an account you co-exist with Kyocera in. Or the next time you have a knock out make some samples and keep them in a binder. If color quality is important to the customer it will be a win. Another point is showing them you get what you pay for, meaning 3 tier color is what they have...
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Re: It’s The End Of The Day With Ray! 2020 Who Will Educate Endusers

Art Post ·
HI Ray and Happy New Year! The A4 Revolution will not happen until those A4 manufacturers provide A4 print devices with the A3 cost per page model along with advanced scanning and finishing. You're right that's there's only a small percentage of users that need 11x17. However 11x17 is only part of the picture with end users needs. Larger document feeders, and stapling is still a requirement in many offices. As you know we could debate this until 2021 or longer, but the end game is advanced...
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Re: More than eight million pages printed by Coventry council in 2019

Art Post ·
okay, who is going to do the match for the cost per page and the US dollar cost?
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Re: Print Copy Tool versus Plotworks

jdicarlo ·
John, The PrintCopy Tool compares pretty favorably to Plotworks. I attached two documents to this post. The Product Support Guide lists differences between the two products. The PowerPoint has screen shots of all the settings in PrintCopy Tool. I hope this helps.
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Re: Ricoh Pro C5300

Art Post ·
this is pretty cool, check out this page on Ricoh Japan site, use google chrome as your browser and then right click to select translate on the site https://www.ricoh.co.jp/pp/hep/
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

txeagle24 ·
I disagree that you have to own the network in order to offer seat-based billing. Before I go into why, can we (imaging industry) please stop referring to Managed Services as MNS? No one in the IT world uses this term; it's industry jargon that makes you stand out as a copier dealer 1st and an IT Services provider 2nd. Managed IT Services, Managed Services...fine. MNS needs to die. Now, here is why I disagree that you have to own the network as a client's Managed Services provider in order...
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

gwalters2009 ·
Originally Posted by txeagle24: I disagree that you have to own the network in order to offer seat-based billing. Before I go into why, can we (imaging industry) please stop referring to Managed Services as MNS? No one in the IT world uses this term; it's industry jargon that makes you stand out as a copier dealer 1st and an IT Services provider 2nd. Managed IT Services, Managed Services...fine. MNS needs to die. Now, here is why I disagree that you have to own the network as a client's...
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Re: 10 Ways to Close Net New Business #4 of #10

Art Post ·
Just a short update in reference to the account I was speaking about. The IG came back with many additional questions today, asking if the cost per page could be lowered, the annual cost of the maintenance agreement, and the price of the system. I stated NO on all accounts. We had started with a 25ppm color A3 device and then moved to an A4 color device. They were not even happy with that price. In addition when they received all of the no's they asked about pre-owned or used. I then stated,...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Jason H ·
Interesting perspective. We constantly have the talks about competitive machines we took on service, especially brands we don't carry. I tend to consider is taking a Konica on service and then a year or two later upgrading it to our equipment net new business from the sales side. Obviously we had net new business on the service side but not net new for "x" with the equipment sale. I'd be interested to hear how others see this. I hear a lot of people say it doesn't matter but if I bring a...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Jason H ·
Jay, We typically go after about any machine other than a Xerox. If someone wants us to service their machine and its not a complete piece of junk we will take it on and will get parts and supplies from dealers etc. until we can upgrade to one of our lines; Savin, Canon, or Samsung. We expect our reps to go out and take service agreements and we pay them the first months billing. Most don't like to mess with 30.00 agreements but they add up and eventually you find a big one. We had a rep who...
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Re: Canon CLC 320 Proposal & Brochure.pdf

Art Post ·
Special thanx to Mike for this proposal! Brings back fond memories of when 5 Pages per Minute for Color was FAST!!!
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?

Jason H ·
Ricoh hasn't even made us aware that those systems can do that.... I don't ever hear of anyone talking about the tiered rate. I wonder if, for once, everyone is on the same page and wants to keep it at a full page of color cost regardless. I hope it stays that way.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?

txeagle24 ·
Our Ricoh SSS told us about it. I'd love to be the first one to push it & make everyone else react. Plus, it would improve profitability if we could charge a higher rate for higher page coverage.
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Re: Kyocera 2551ci.pdf

Art Post ·
something good to write a blog on, I'll write this now, check it out on the blog page
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Jason, Talk to KIP again I have never heard of KIP asking dealers to stock machines(maybe one for the demo floor). Plus KIP is releasing the new 800 series next month and these machines look like they should be good sellers. 8 full color "D"s per minute and 10K less that the Oce colorwave. We sell or have sold all the major lines of wide format, KIP, Oce, Ricoh, even going back to Xerox. All our sales reps and techs prefer the KIPs. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
nice, I guess you can make a pretty good argument for color when there is a decent amount of color plotting that is produced, right? What is the estimated cost per square foot for color?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
We are getting $.03 per sq ft. That is less than the monochrome machines, this is why I don't see us placing anymore new monochrome machines. We will place some refurbished ones to the customers that have to go low budget. Not only that it blows the Oce Colorwave away. We have a customer who makes these 20 ft full color GIS aerials that cost him $21.00 each to run on the Oce (his numbers not ours) we ran them on the KIP at a cost of $1.76.
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Re: Nsi Autostore

John Mooney ·
Maven , What I tell my customers and when I'm out with sales reps is it's all about getting things done in less steps. I'm in the legal vertical so time is money and everyone has an hourly billable. Right now here's the average user scan: 1.) User walks up to MFP and logs in 2.) Finds their name via LDAP or enters manually and then enters client and matter 3.) Selects Scan to email 4.) Sends PDF to their email 5.) Walks back to their desk 6.) Finds Canon Scan 00034789* (or doesn't because...
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Re: Charge for IT support

Jason H ·
We had never charged for it after the sale until about 6 months ago due to people calling all the time for driver installs, scanning issues related to their internet etc. We used to offer an optional network/it yearly agreement and people would decline and then start calling for help. We decided to send out, initially an opt-out to ever customer who had current devices, and after every sale send one out. We did it as an opt out due to the fact that customers would decline the option and...
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Re: Ricoh MP C3503SP.pdf

Art Post ·
I think I smell something fishy here, could be herring or bluefish! I looked up the contract number for the State of NJ and the contract refers to a cost per copy program. Unless it changed, you commit to x amount of prints for color & black every month and you then pay that price plus the overages. The word "Lease" is in the quote, plus there is price for the lease and then the price for the maintenance & service. So, I would have to say that this is not a cost per copy and then how...
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Re: Samsung Copier Million Page Test "A Tree Massacre"

Art Post ·
Seems my Blog about the million page test was not that well received with Samsung. They complained to ENX Magazine who then pulled the blog off their site. Whatever happened to FREE Press? They were not happy that I pointed out that they used "x" amount of tree's for a 1980's type test! Since Samsung spends money with ENX, ENX pulled the blogs and is not posting any of my latest stuff. You know what, as far as I'm concerned we here this finance stuff about Sharp, Toshiba and none of the...
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Re: This dealer may want to fix this error!

Art Post ·
me neither, it's actually 6.7 pages per minute ("D") size
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Re: Around the World with Ricoh

Art Post ·
Ricoh Selects Juniper Networks to Modernize its Group-Wide Network Infrastructure TOKYO, Aug. 09, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Juniper Networks (NYSE: JNPR ), an industry leader in automated, scalable and secure networks, today announced that Ricoh Group has successfully implemented Juniper Networks' high-performing solutions to modernize and simplify the operations of its core networking and security infrastructure that supports approximately 500 locations and 34,000 users in Japan. Ricoh Group...
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Re: Your Copier

Larry Kirsch ·
Welcome back😀 https://www.p4photel.com/blog/...-the-copier-industry 6 Reasons Why Flat Rate aka One Rate Will Change the Copier Industry Art Post 36 minutes ago I remember when plain paper copiers used rolls of paper and not sheets. I remember when the glass on the copiers had to move back and forth. I remember when copiers used liquid ink (toner) to produce an image. I remember when you used a dial to set how many copies you wanted to make. Yup, it's been a pretty incredible journey to see...
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Re: Five Reasons Why I'm Stoked About the New Ricoh SP8400DN Printer

Art Post ·
No, we are not doing any of those agreements with our MFP's. With the printer the device billing would not include the drum, or fuser. Client would pay for those. Device billing is a practical maintenance agreement for the new A3 ink based MFP's. Epson will be launching their 100ppm color device shortly. The only consumables is the print head and the ink. It's rumored that the print head will be warranted for 3 years. In addition the print head is very costly. The idea would be to charge...
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Re: Five Reasons Why I'm Stoked About the New Ricoh SP8400DN Printer

fem4001 ·
Thanks. Interesting. I wonder what the advantages and disadvantages of those ink jets are (compared to laser MFP).
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Re: Five Reasons Why I'm Stoked About the New Ricoh SP8400DN Printer

Art Post ·
Interesting, I thought jh told me the cost was 2,500 per year. I was like what? Can you find out exactly that that cost is. I'm curious as I guess we all are
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Re: Five Reasons Why I'm Stoked About the New Ricoh SP8400DN Printer

Old Glory ·
I guess he was just referring to the Epson C869R (25 ppm). We kept asking questions about the 100 ppm unit and I lost track which unit this information applied to. Sorry for the confusion. We have a launch on the 11th and he promised more info on the 100 ppm at that time.
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions

SalesServiceGuy ·
There is an all inclusive cpc charge for the Erasable Blue toner. The cost per copy analysis suggests that if on a 60 month lease you do not expect the the customer to erase more than 210,000 pages (3,500 pages per month) you can forget the parts cost and charge the same cpc as for Black at around $0.010 per page with a decent profit. There is no charge other than the users effort to recycle pages printed with erasable blue. If a sheet of paper costs $0.010 and Erasable Blue costs $0.010 you...
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions

SalesServiceGuy ·
There is no charge to erase pages. A 3rd paper drawer would probably be useful. Letter/ Legal/ Erasable. The number of erased pages are recorded and displayed in the useful Paper Re-use Report which describes sheets of paper saved, CO2 saved and money saved. The Eco-MFP can erase pages at 17.5 sheets per minute.
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Re: Color clicks

Old Glory ·
Does it matter whether the first page is color or just black?
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days

SalesServiceGuy ·
In a hint at what is to soon happen with tariffs on copiers/ printers from China headed to the USA, Harley Davidson Motorcycles announced today that it would shift some production headed for Europe to other global manufacturing facilities to avoid paying tariffs estimated at up to $2,200.00 per bike. It could take nine to 18 months to make this change. It also said that it would not increase prices to European dealers and would take a hit to profitability for the remainder of this year at...
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Re: Xerox will install 16,000 printers

Czech ·
This seems wrong on so many levels.... 16,000 printers? 5 machines per site?? 10 year contract??? I feel as if a DMS / workflow solution would have saved them so much more.
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Re: Kyocera finally put's out a low volume A4 Color

Kyocera Guy ·
Yes I have sold a couple of these. For the price these are fantastic. My service manager is impressed which is hard to do. Dual side scanning is a definite selling point. The cost per page is going to be higher of course. I would say in the .015 black and white and .11 color to be safe (depending on your market of course). Not as good as say the 6535 per say but the machine is less than half the cost. If the run more than a couple thousand a month I would move them up to the 6535cidn. Let me...
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Re: Compensation Question

Czech ·
I get paid strictly on GP, but I would be unopposed to a bonus structure for this model. 90% of my sales are new business, so I sell anywhere from 4 to 7 machines per month with 1000 to 2000 GP in each one.
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Re: Konica MInolta bizhub C258 1 Rate program proposal

Art Post ·
Special thanx to the p4p hotel member that emailed this to me today. What I noticed was that the proposal states that the one rate is "locked" for the term of the lease. Like I stated in of the webinars this can happen with approval. However the price book calls for the flat rate service on the C258 for $102 per month. Thus that's $23 per month over the published rate which nets another $1,380 in revenue. IS anyone else coming across proposals where KM is locking the price for the term of...
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Re: Is This the Beginning of the End for the Padding of Lease Rates?

Old Glory ·
from today's Leasing News. Ralph Petta Reaction to Tom McCurnin's "Is the Disclosure Too Complicated? of SB 1235" [ http://leasingnews.org/hires/petta_ralph2018.jpg ] From: Ralph Petta President and CEO Equipment Leasing and Finance Association 1625 Eye Street, NW * Suite 850 Washington, DC 20006 "Allow me to take exception and set the record straight with respect to Mr. McCurnin's statement in his September 21 article(1) about passage of disclosure legislation in California, SB 1235 that...
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Re: MPS and Linux HELP!

jdicarlo ·
So some clarification first. PaperCut absolutely does support Mac. In fact, it is the only cost recovery/print control solution that I know of that actually installs in an all Mac environment. (Server and Client) It also is the only solution I know of that installs in a Linux environment. So both of your issues are solved with PaperCut. I included the install guides for Mac and Linux to get you started.
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
heard today that reps get an extra 2%
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
Program is to be continued for third quarter of 2018
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

copyme ·
Question: This makes little sense. If it is "unlimited clicks" but at the same time if the customer goes over their typical use pattern there is an overage charge, then how can it be "unlimited clicks"? I must be missing something! From the post: Here's what's not so good for the sales person to chat about: If a client use of supplies rises above the typical use pattern (determined by KMBS) the client would need to pay overage charges
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
Copyme I guess you could say that is the "gotcha" clause
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

copyme ·
Then let me take it one step further - is there anything misleading in the way it is being presented? Is there any way to see the offer in writing from one of the reps out there? It one thing to "say" it is unlimited clicks - it is another thing if it is writing. Doesn't seem to be unlimited clicks in any way shape or form to me. Is this going to give Office Equipment Sales People a bad name out there? I think it needs to be exposed if this is a scam.
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
I'm not seeing this as a scam, but just a company protecting it self if a user is producing too much color on a page. personally, I think the reps need to tell the "entire" story and explain any potential pitfalls.
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
IN reviewing what I write about excess clicks, the wording should have been " to pay for improper or excess use". I have changed that in the blog and I apologize for the mistake. However, it stills means that there will be some time of charge. It will be interesting to what happens once many of these contracts are in the field. For certain users this will be an excellent opportunity to reduce costs, especially with those that have a large fleet of printers.
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

fisher ·
This is nothing more than just another way to package the exact same thing we've all always done. Just packaging and a talk track. Same old Same OLD.
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Art Post ·
I beg to differ. We just ran up against this with an account that was producing 16K in color on three MFP devices. This program saves that client almost $40K
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Re: The Flat Rate Program "The Good, the Bad & the Ugly"

Old Glory ·
Giving away the blades to sell the razor? That doesn't make sense. What could possibly have changed to allow them to forgo such profits nationwide? On a side note, I wander if they have any Chinese Manufacturing?
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Re: A Few Copier Vignettes from the Late Eighties & Nineties

George KRebs ·
Art, You and I are from similar professional backgrounds and times. We started in 1980 selling Sharp and Juki typewriters. Everything sold near MSRP. Then the fax boom came and we caught that wave perfectly. We sold Ricoh thermal faxes for full list ($2995.00). The only issue was cash flow; we sold them faster than we could order and purchase them. Copier Maintenance agreements went from .022 up to .035 and did not include drums, developer, toner, fuser rollers or lamps! Also, like your...
 
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