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Re: What's the weirdest place you've sold a copier to?

Art Post ·
Jason, I changed the word system to copier, hope that's ok. I gotta give that one some thought, sure I'll have something for you
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 29"

Martin Hofman ·
Hi Art, Google search for JerseyPlotters also on page 1 in Europe! Enjoy! Martin
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Re: What's the weirdest place you've sold a copier to?

Czech ·
Can't take credit for it, but one of our reps sold a colour copier to a strip club. Let's just say that they were printing a LOT of 11x17 posters....
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Re: What's the weirdest place you've sold a copier to?

Kiwispike ·
About to hit 17 years in the industry now so seen a few.. Sold a scanner to a strip club, I was new to the industry and just a teenager at the time - made the mistake of asking what they wanted to scan Had a "serviced" copier in a massage parlour (inherited the install base so I cant take credit for this) Sold/installed copiers/MFD's to both of the last two Prime Ministers offices/houses Installed a fax machine INSIDE a jail, there was a very dusty gap and some cables on the desk so I asked...
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Re: What's the weirdest place you've sold a copier to?

Art Post ·
Wow, those are some great install! Not a copier, but I did sell a cash register to strip club once.
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 44"

Jason H ·
Love it Art! I had a day of running around with a networking luncheon followed by a training for a new device that I sold earlier in the month and stole from Sharp. I was extremely late to the party with this deal but they already had a canon that was very old and decided they wanted another canon and on top of that wanted someone to deal with local over Sharp and Ricoh direct. Then I was walking into the grocery store on the way home and got a call from a person I quoted a machine to about...
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 44"

Art Post ·
Jason Awesome!!! Wish I was only 6K away!
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 47"

H Carl Little ·
Art, these are great for our sales teams. Keep them coming. Thank you. Carl Carl Little Director of Business Development Datamax KC 913-752-2256 (direct) 913-333-7180 (cell)
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 47"

Art Post ·
Karl Thank you! Please feel free to share via social media also! Ten more to go. I was just thinking about doing a journal for the entire 2017. Art
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 47"

Jason H ·
I am seeing more of that with wide format recently and I am not sure why. Most of what I have seen has been where they are running the same volume as before but they just don't want to have a machine anymore so they outsource it and it doesn't seem to matter if the machine was leased to them for a $1 a month they still wouldn't do it.
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 49"

Tom Koenig ·
Good Luck Art Still holding on to that $20 bucks!!!! Thank you, Have a Great Day! Thomas Koenig District Business Manager Dealer Division - Northeast Region RICOH USA, INC. 5 Dedrick Place West Caldwell, NJ 07006 Cell: 570-439-2864 Thomas.Koenig@ricoh-usa.com
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 49"

Art Post ·
Tom, Oh, aren't you the funny one!! Have fun at the Stratix Holiday party!
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 55" The Last Two Days

Tom Koenig ·
Good Luck Art I still got that $20 bill riding on you!!! Thank you, Have a Great Day! Thomas Koenig District Business Manager Dealer Division - Northeast Region RICOH USA, INC. 5 Dedrick Place West Caldwell, NJ 07006 Cell: 570-439-2864 Thomas.Koenig@ricoh-usa.com
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 55" The Last Two Days

Art Post ·
Tom Thank you, however Luck is for Rabbits! Why not pass a few "hot" leads my way! I'm sure that would make a great Christmas gift!
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 55" The Last Two Days

Tom Koenig ·
Wish I had a few that I could give. The stocking is empty!! Thank you, Have a Great Day! Thomas Koenig District Business Manager Dealer Division - Northeast Region RICOH USA, INC. 5 Dedrick Place West Caldwell, NJ 07006 Cell: 570-439-2864 Thomas.Koenig@ricoh-usa.com
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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 55" The Last Two Days

Martin Hofman ·
Hi Art, I am stil 100% confidend you will manage!, but between day 48 and 49 you lost 1K !! You have to do another 28.5K instead of 27.5K, sorry! Martin
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Re: COVID19 "Remote Working" Day Eighteen of Sales

SalesServiceGuy ·
People always like getting free stuff. Two promo ideas 1). Offer 1-5 free color banner prints to your clients and prospects.. Many copiers can now print banners up to 12"W by 48" L . This feature is often not promoted. It costs you almost nothing but the customer might perceive as having value. It could be "Open for Business", "Happy Birthday," "Grand Re-Opening", whatever. The customer can dictate the content. You can add a little logo in the corner of the banner "supplied by ABC Copier...
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Re: COVID19 "Remote Working" Day Eighteen of Sales

Art Post ·
I like the second offer, yes people always like free
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Re: Post-Virus We Must Defeat The Zombie Companies!

SalesServiceGuy ·
We generally do not build in prepaid copy/ print blocks into our leases. We do give away free copy prints up front but only intended as a short term bonus. We do normally charge a $25.00 minimum monthly maintenance fee but have waived that until the economy rebuilds momentum. I am in Canada, lease vendors are currently offering 90 day payment deferrals added back on at the end of term for those customers who request them. Leases expire every month and customers are happy with the equipment...
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Re: Will outside Sales Rep's go away?

fisher ·
In a way its already gone to the internet and away from the outside sales rep........at least for stand alone printers and A4 devices. If all someone needs is a printer or an A4 to be used for basic printing,scanning and copying.....face it, they really don't need us already. If you've been at this a long time you probably remember the days when you sold a lot of A4 machines to small offices. 20 years ago if you needed an A4 you called a copier dealer. Those days are gone for the most part.
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Re: Ricoh Copy Output Tray for MP 9002

Art Post ·
Yup agreed. I'm working with Copier Solution Shop in the Netherlands for a third party replacement. In addition for right Ricoh Europe is still offering these. I have a contact and can get more. Thinking sooner or later they will run out also
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Re: Print Copy Tool versus Plotworks

jdicarlo ·
John, The PrintCopy Tool compares pretty favorably to Plotworks. I attached two documents to this post. The Product Support Guide lists differences between the two products. The PowerPoint has screen shots of all the settings in PrintCopy Tool. I hope this helps.
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

Czech ·
Is it just me, or does West McDonald look like Wolverine? I watched the Seat-Based Billing video that was posted from the Top 100 Summit. Definitely some interesting points going back and forth. Print Audit has done a great job of persistently marketing seat-based pilling to the copier industry.
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

txeagle24 ·
I disagree that you have to own the network in order to offer seat-based billing. Before I go into why, can we (imaging industry) please stop referring to Managed Services as MNS? No one in the IT world uses this term; it's industry jargon that makes you stand out as a copier dealer 1st and an IT Services provider 2nd. Managed IT Services, Managed Services...fine. MNS needs to die. Now, here is why I disagree that you have to own the network as a client's Managed Services provider in order...
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

Art Post ·
Tx, awesome post! The conclusion for managed IT was at our own round table and not the general audience. One of the dealers in my group is heavily involved with managed IT, and thought it would be great offer. Yes, it was stated that MNS is only used by copier dealers and should be referenced to what you described. TY for the awesome reply!!
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

Art Post ·
Is it just me, it seems that the general rule of thumb for the copier industry to end users is "the take or leave approach". Meaning, come hell or high water we're not going to change the way we bill, the way we support, or the financial solutions that we offer. While I was at the Top 100 conference, a rep from Wells Fargo spoke about the billing options that they now have in their leases. One of the options was for seat billing for managed IT services. My thought is that if it's available...
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Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)

gwalters2009 ·
Originally Posted by txeagle24: I disagree that you have to own the network in order to offer seat-based billing. Before I go into why, can we (imaging industry) please stop referring to Managed Services as MNS? No one in the IT world uses this term; it's industry jargon that makes you stand out as a copier dealer 1st and an IT Services provider 2nd. Managed IT Services, Managed Services...fine. MNS needs to die. Now, here is why I disagree that you have to own the network as a client's...
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Re: 10 Ways to Close Net New Business #4 of #10

Art Post ·
Just a short update in reference to the account I was speaking about. The IG came back with many additional questions today, asking if the cost per page could be lowered, the annual cost of the maintenance agreement, and the price of the system. I stated NO on all accounts. We had started with a 25ppm color A3 device and then moved to an A4 color device. They were not even happy with that price. In addition when they received all of the no's they asked about pre-owned or used. I then stated,...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Jason H ·
Interesting perspective. We constantly have the talks about competitive machines we took on service, especially brands we don't carry. I tend to consider is taking a Konica on service and then a year or two later upgrading it to our equipment net new business from the sales side. Obviously we had net new business on the service side but not net new for "x" with the equipment sale. I'd be interested to hear how others see this. I hear a lot of people say it doesn't matter but if I bring a...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Czech ·
I've always learned the two terms separately: Net New Business: Placing an MFP into a new account that had no existing MFP Competitive Knockout: Displacing a competitor's MFP with your own Base Upgrade: Upgrading one of your current MFP's Base Net New: Adding a new MFP into one of your current accounts The terms would be based based on the department. So for your car dealer example, you would be an existing account for their service department but net new business for their sales department.
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

jay robinson ·
I was wondering if the subject of those customers who were acquired through service was going to come up, & Jason's comment is certainly "food for thought"... In his example, he brought on the service customer (with the obvious intention of upgrading them at the first opportunity) & the dealer gets a contract & machine sale that they otherwise wouldn't have. Sounds like net new to me. In my experience, though, most of these service to machine sale conversions are from customers...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Jason H ·
Jay, We typically go after about any machine other than a Xerox. If someone wants us to service their machine and its not a complete piece of junk we will take it on and will get parts and supplies from dealers etc. until we can upgrade to one of our lines; Savin, Canon, or Samsung. We expect our reps to go out and take service agreements and we pay them the first months billing. Most don't like to mess with 30.00 agreements but they add up and eventually you find a big one. We had a rep who...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

jay robinson ·
We do almost the exact same thing... anything but Canon, Toshiba, & Xerox. If I could get Reps to bring in 4 figure maintenance agreements, life would be spectacular!
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Jason H ·
We were staying away from Toshiba for a long time until we had a friend who could sell us parts, supplies, and give us manuals etc. those 4 figure contracts certainly do help. Seems few and far between but I'll take them when I can get them.
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

Art Post ·
Originally Posted by Czech: I've always learned the two terms separately: Net New Business: Placing an MFP into a new account that had no existing MFP Competitive Knockout: Displacing a competitor's MFP with your own Base Upgrade: Upgrading one of your current MFP's Base Net New: Adding a new MFP into one of your current accounts The terms would be based based on the department. So for your car dealer example, you would be an existing account for their service department but net new business...
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Re: When is Net New Business not Net New Business?

txeagle24 ·
In my opinion, Net New is any revenue stream you did not previously have. Take over service of a competitor's equipment = Net New. Replace that machine purchased from a competitor with one of your own = Net New. Take over management of their print fleet or IT infrastructure = Net New. Replace those printers or computers, Net New. Time comes to renew those contracts at a lower or identical service payment= Upgrade. But, if their monthly payment increases, the difference between the old...
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Re: Target GP Margins

Czech ·
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like I'm about right with where my GP should be. txeagle: I know the feeling of those slim margins where everyone is dropping their pants!! I can make more GP on a single refurbished copier in a commercial account than 8 machines at a major account.
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Re: When did you first learn about the industry

Art Post ·
Jason: They are awesome!! Especially the one of the left, givin the "eagle eye"!! Congrats.. I learned about the industry from state sponsored copier tech training course.
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Re: When did you first learn about the industry

txeagle24 ·
Honestly, it was when I walked in the door for my first interview. I remember the individual interviewing me mentioning that they sold Ricoh equipment, & the only frame of reference I had is that Ricoh sponsored the "Call to the Bullpen" on MLB games at the time. Before I got into the industry, I could not make a straight copy on the first try if you paid me, because I never thought to use the document feeder & could never get the original lined up on the glass. I knew about all of...
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?

SalesServiceGuy ·
In Canada, no such plan exits nor am I even aware the capability exists within Toshiba copiers. In my market, multi-tier pricing for color does not comes up in competitive pricing. For a 25 cpm, pricing seems to be holding steady at $0.010 Black and $0.070 color for single units. I have seen less and sometimes we move the cpc around a bit. For example, when we set up a copier we build the initial toner costs into our equipment costs. That gives us 32,000 colour pages to play with.
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Re: Nsi Autostore

John Mooney ·
Maven , What I tell my customers and when I'm out with sales reps is it's all about getting things done in less steps. I'm in the legal vertical so time is money and everyone has an hourly billable. Right now here's the average user scan: 1.) User walks up to MFP and logs in 2.) Finds their name via LDAP or enters manually and then enters client and matter 3.) Selects Scan to email 4.) Sends PDF to their email 5.) Walks back to their desk 6.) Finds Canon Scan 00034789* (or doesn't because...
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Re: Bad salespeople still exist, don't they?

Czech ·
Spot on Art. I love Gary Vaynerchuk's famous quote, "Legacy is greater than currency." You never know where you will be in 5 years. Walking away from every deal with your reputation and integrity intact is more important.
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Re: Selling Copiers “The Good Ole Days”

Tom Koenig ·
Come on Art, admit it. After 30 years of the good old days you would have been bored out of your mind. It is fun to look back on though. Sent from my iPhone Please excuse typos Thank you and Have a Great Day > On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:07 AM, "Print4Pay Hotel" < alerts@hoop.la > wrote: >
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Re: W6700sp help!

Art Post ·
Got it, what we use is an exit tray that is sold by "Copier Solution Shop". The new exit tray will allow "e" size documents to exit to the front of the W6700 and they don't have to use the rear exit. I believe it will stack 50 or so. All of my clients love and their has never been a complaint. Here's the link https://www.copiersolutionshop...put-tray-rot-1.html, I will check for a video. I thought I posted one in the "pic's" section of this site.
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Re: W6700sp help!

Art Post ·
You are welcome. Does anyone have a video of the MP6700SP with the paper exit tray from Copier Solution Shop?
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Re: W6700sp help!

fisher ·
Like Art, it is rare that a 6700 leaves here without the aftermarket try. Just a heads up on that tray.......if the customer bumps into the tray there is a very good chance that the metal tray will fall on your customer's feet. I had it happen to me. To see what I mean mount the tray on your 6700 and push the tray forward in the center......the two hooks will disengage and the tray will come crashing down. I came up with a very simple modification to this tray that will eliminate the...
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Re: Your Copier

Larry Kirsch ·
Welcome back😀 https://www.p4photel.com/blog/...-the-copier-industry 6 Reasons Why Flat Rate aka One Rate Will Change the Copier Industry Art Post 36 minutes ago I remember when plain paper copiers used rolls of paper and not sheets. I remember when the glass on the copiers had to move back and forth. I remember when copiers used liquid ink (toner) to produce an image. I remember when you used a dial to set how many copies you wanted to make. Yup, it's been a pretty incredible journey to see...
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Re: Why Social Selling Stinks for Most Copier Sales Reps

Larry Kirsch ·
Very interesting point of view. Always informative. Old adage. The more activity the greater the results. Plan your work. Work your plan. Have a great day.
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Re: Why Social Selling Stinks for Most Copier Sales Reps

Larry Levine ·
Art, love this! You know my take on the integration of social into the sales process. Sales requires hard work as most will not put forth the effort. The reason why ones social anything stinks is their effort, plain and simple. Operating with an analig mindset in a digital world = death blow to a sales rep.
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Re: Why Social Selling Stinks for Most Copier Sales Reps

Art Post ·
ty Larry!
 
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