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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

txeagle24 ·
Never. They're too focused on high-end production and SoHo machines to gave a damn about anything else. Nothing in between seems to matter.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Jason H ·
They are never going to get their act together. I spoke with Jim Corridi at the CDA meeting several months ago and he told me big things were coming down the pipeline very soon because he agreed it would be hard to upgrade 3406WD systems with a 3406WD system. He also, however, acted like the Epson was going to be the latest and greatest thing for all of us that sell wide format. Not sure why since we don't typically mess with the ink jet machines. You can find the Epson's extremely cheap...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
The "big things" was hopefully not a teaser to keep dealers on board for wide format. Still, the only two I know about are the higher end wf's and not the W3601 series, anyone hear anything else?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Jason H ·
We were talking with KIP but my father did not want to order 2 or 3 machines at one time for inventory like they wanted us to. I talked with Oce' and the guy was pretty much like talking to a wall and said he didn't need anymore dealers in his territory and pretty much hung up. I would like to have an alternative and not be at Ricoh's mercy. I have tried to upgrade 3406's with 3406's and it doesn't go over that well.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
Even "Oceania" Ricoh has the W2401. Even though it's not an upgrade it would help with price sensitive deals.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Jason, Talk to KIP again I have never heard of KIP asking dealers to stock machines(maybe one for the demo floor). Plus KIP is releasing the new 800 series next month and these machines look like they should be good sellers. 8 full color "D"s per minute and 10K less that the Oce colorwave. We sell or have sold all the major lines of wide format, KIP, Oce, Ricoh, even going back to Xerox. All our sales reps and techs prefer the KIPs. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

fisher ·
The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
Number seems kinda low for OCE! Originally Posted by GR81: 2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
At least Ricoh not last.....bahahahaha
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Art, I think the industry is starting to figure out that Oce equipment is not as well built as it used to be. My techs hate working on them. In fact were finding the Ricohs are more reliable than the Oces. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Jason H ·
I do find the Ricoh's to be very reliable. What they need is speed though, IMO. Have worked with a steel maker on some projects and he has 4 big Oce's that run all day long, 5 days a week. He loved the 3406 but said he would have to buy about 8 or 10 of them do the same work the 4 high speed Oce's run. He wouldn't bite on the 7140's either.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Call that KIP sales Rep again and make a deal with him. If you can get the deal with 2 KIP 9900s (those will replace the 4 Oce's), then you get to be a KIP dealer. He will also spend half as much in toner as those Oce machines just eat toner.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
We're still trying to figure out this whole wide format thing out. Had a repro company also that would not even glance at the 7140 nor the supposed upgrade
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Jason H ·
I'm pretty sure that the repro companies think that Oce' is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am hard pressed to find any that don't have oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Wide Format is in a big transition right now, I know KIP is no longer going to be putting any R&D into monochrome printing anymore. Its all color from this point forward, I know Oce (or CSA) is thinking the same way. I can't speak for Ricoh but at this point why would you put any money into it. Ink jet is not the answer ether so the Epson deal in not going to get you into too many doors. If the KIP 800 series is priced right (somewhere in the $25K-30K area) a lot of them will be going...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
GR81: Good stuff, first time I heard of BIM
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
Jason, We don't were a repro company as well and we only use KIP. It's tough getting a company to switch.... But like I said look for a big switch over to color in the next couple of years.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Jason H ·
GR81 That's good info. Thank you for that.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

fisher ·
Originally Posted by Art Post: Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
everything is about to change
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Maxima1 ·
The Epson argument has been going on for years. I brought one product in as a complement product and direct print production sales fought for Epson devices as part of the portfolio. I wouldn't allow it. However, with Vellek in charge of all product marketing, a lot changed. Overall profitability on Epson to Ricoh is about 7-9%. Plus there is no way to lock a customer into a toner inclusive deal when they could by it anywhere on the web. Losing proposition for Ricoh, winning for Epson. I ran...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

chops ·
I'm wondering how the new KIP 800 series are doing. Many of my existing base w/ 5 year old + Ricoh's are asking if Ricoh will have something similar soon. Sounds like they won't? I can't believe that they aren't doing any R&D on it !!
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
We don't sell the Epson, I do hear that many Ricoh wide format dealers are looking to change. The W3602 is due out something this spring, Ricoh is waiting to exhaust inventories on the W3601. I have not sold a W3601 yet this year and believe I only sold a handful last year, I used to sell at least a dozen a year. The W3602 will have the GUI as the color systems and many of the same features, sad but the GUI and the MFP features will still put us way behind with the likes of KIP & Oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
I meant we don't sell the KIP brand, we do sell the Epson wide formats
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
KIP 800's are doing great!!! Every single customer that has demoed it has ordered one. We have installed 6 and all are running great with no issue, we another 12 on order. Only bad part is it is taking weeks to get them. We may never place a "new" monochrome machine again.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
GR81 That's awesome! Wish we had those boxes. What's the average price you are reselling those for?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
About $25K for the 2 roll, $30K for the 4 roll
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Art Post ·
nice, I guess you can make a pretty good argument for color when there is a decent amount of color plotting that is produced, right? What is the estimated cost per square foot for color?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

GR81 ·
We are getting $.03 per sq ft. That is less than the monochrome machines, this is why I don't see us placing anymore new monochrome machines. We will place some refurbished ones to the customers that have to go low budget. Not only that it blows the Oce Colorwave away. We have a customer who makes these 20 ft full color GIS aerials that cost him $21.00 each to run on the Oce (his numbers not ours) we ran them on the KIP at a cost of $1.76.
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Re: Need Kyocera Copier (dealer) Price List

Jason of RAM Copiers ·
Hi Art, I am with a Kyocera dealer and would love a premium upgrade. What exacly are you looking for?
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Re: Need Kyocera Copier (dealer) Price List

Art Post ·
Hey Jason: Thank you for joining!! I have the Kyocera pricing I needed. However, I will need it again in the future. We can do something then. But, we have a promo for a Premium/VIP. For each competitive (recent) quote or proposal that you email me, I will comp you a FREE month for each one. Will that work for you? Art
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Re: Konica Minolta OnePrice

Art Post ·
Hey Bumble Not a KM dealership here, hope someone else can help you with this
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Re: Konica Minolta OnePrice

Art Post ·
I don't understand there is tons of activity on this site, but no one can find the time to help?
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Re: Pricing for new Ricoh c435DN

slim463 ·
Equipment & Accessories Item No. Description Suggested Retail Price 407997 Ricoh SP C435DN Color Laser Printer $1,069 406681 Paper Feed Unit PB1020 $468 411699 IEEE1284 Interface Board Type A $134 407113 IEEE802.11 Interface Unit Type O $400 417084 USB Device Server Option Type M12 $270 MX407776RA Hard Disk Drive Option Type P7 $399 407784 VM Card Type P7 $119 ESPAC1 ESP AC1 Power Filter $30 52121 Tall Cabinet Type C430 $260 52111 Medium Cabinet Type C430 $245 406755 Caster Table Type C...
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Re: Pricing for new Ricoh c435DN

Art Post ·
excellent, ty
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Need help with Toshiba Pricing

Art Post ·
Toshiba seems to put all parts in a separate 'SPP' doc. Usually includes the developers and fusers, etc., curious if someone can email me that file? apost@p4photel.com
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SolarWinds Introduces New Subscription Model for Its Popular On-Premises Products

Art Post ·
SolarWinds (NYSE:SWI), a leading provider of powerful and affordable IT management software, today announced subscription-based pricing for the majority of its on-premises IT operations management products. The new pricing model provides IT professionals and their organizations an additional option alongside the company’s perpetual licensing model, and offers greater flexibility with their operational expenses and predictability for their budgets—two things that are front and center for IT...
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Re: Ricoh C7100X Pro Pricing

Art Post ·
apparently this guy has pricing:
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Re: Ricoh C7100X Pro Pricing

txeagle24 ·
I've got nothing.
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Re: Ricoh C7100X Pro Pricing

Art Post ·
Its out should be announced soon!!!
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Re: Ricoh C7100X Pro Pricing

Art Post ·
launch an pricing might be tomorrow the 5th
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Re: Ricoh C7100X Pro Pricing

Art Post ·
Pricing is available on Aficio League (info center). However, I have a few questions: Don't see many fiery options like compose, impose, color profiler. Can anyone expand on this?
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Pricing for new Ricoh c435DN

Art Post ·
Does anyone have the pricing for this system yet, need consumables also please
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Konica and Kyocera Dealer Pricing

Moody ·
I don't know if it's this time of year or that manufacturers are just getting aggressive all over in Florida. It kinda takes away the "solution" selling that we all strive for when manufacturers drop their pants on the larger deals. Does anyone have the Konica and Kyocera dealer pricing?
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Need Kyocera Copier (dealer) Price List

Art Post ·
Can anyone help me with this?  I'm willing to barter Premium Membership for the pricing file.    
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Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!

Art Post ·
Had an email from a P4P'er today that goes into detail about the product launch of the Epson plotters and the MFP scanning kit.  So, let me say, "laughable"!!  Epson is dictating the Epson UMRP (Unilateral Minimum Resale Price).   All I...
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Need Help fpr Xerox and Toshba Dealer Pricing

Art Post ·
I'm working on a special project and would be willing to trade a Two Year Premium VIP Lifetime memberships for Xerox and Toshiba dealer pricing.  Can anyone help us out?   Art
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eFolder Announces New Bundled Pricing for eFolder BDR for ShadowProtect

Art Post ·
eFolder, a leading supplier of business continuity and file sync services for the IT channel, today announced new and improved pricing for eFolder BDR for ShadowProtect. The new eFolder bundled pricing approach delivers partners greater simplicity, superior value and massive amounts of included storage per protected server in the eFolder Cloud. eFolder BDR for ShadowProtect is a backup and disaster recovery service , which bundles StorageCraft ShadowProtect imaged-based backup software with...
 
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