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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

muleyman ·
First is this your actual reply to the account looking at thoseToshiba products listed (455 & 305)? If yes and they have a great history with the Toshiba product, telling them there a "bottom dweller" would make anyone think that you're only wanting to sell them what YOU'RE offering. The models they requested are older models of Toshiba and who knows if they've worked well for them or not. Also if you research the Okidata product, most of their MFP's are based on the Toshiba platform now...
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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

Art Post ·
Actually, I did not mention that I am offering any equipment to them. I'm not even sure where they are located, I'm not looking to sell them, All of the recent MFP's that I've seen at the shows have pretty much the same GUI> I do remember something about a more robust partnering with Toshiba/
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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

TimB ·
FYI: Toshiba, overall, is in the top ten for R&D Spend-to-Sales ratios. "Bottom dweller" really is not a fair use of words. With any device manufacturer, product is only as good as its dealer support. Get references if need be. RE: maintenance; The asker is talking B&W devices not color. Regardless, get the maintenance. Fewer spikes in copy quality or hardware issues because you'll make that phone call to fix rather than putting up with poor copy quality, etc. for fear of how much it...
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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

Art Post ·
TimB: Thanx for the comment! I believe you with the top ten in R & D for Spend to Sales ratios, but I don't R & D being conducted for copiers not like Canon, Xerox, KonicaMInolta & Xerox. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it must be a duck. Toshiba's market share over the last ten years in the US has always been at or near the bottom of the pack, thus they are cellar dwellers, bottom feeders, in the US market. You are correct with the MA, they were not asking for...
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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

EByers ·
Art, I like your general guidance to the initial poster, and I won't grade your writing since this isn't an English class. In regard to this brief post conversation, I think honesty is the best policy with customers and with ourselves. Yes Tim, they probably are in the top ten. However, the customer was asking which is the best. By rankings in the market place, the top seven do not include Toshiba. They fall within the bottom 7% of market share for shipments and the bottom 8.6% for market...
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Re: Best Black & White MFP for 10k/month yeild. Suggestions?

Art Post ·
thanx for nor grading my English!!! most threads are done at night and I'll admit, I'm much better at selling than writing.
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Re: HP & Sharp "What is Canon Thinking"

Old Glory ·
Sharp is much more desperate than Canon. Whatever the deal, I'm sure it was beyond anything a financially secure company like Canon would consider.
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Re: HP & Sharp "What is Canon Thinking"

Wallingford ·
I don't think that anyone who bought an Edgeline, or further back the HP rebadged Konica MFD's, will be keen to give HP another go.
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Re: Managing Print Costs for Wide Format Ink Plotters

Art Post ·
For all Premium Members here is the link in the "clips" section of this web site to access the document https://www.p4photel.com/clip/u...ttersvsledsystemsxls
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Re: Two Copier Dudes to Attend Graph Expo 2016

John ·
Propane and propane accessories.
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Re: Two Copier Dudes to Attend Graph Expo 2016

Petra ·
Hey Art, I'll be at Graph Expo, too. Would be great to catch you over a coffee (and, of course, talk about a couple of things .
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Re: Two Copier Dudes to Attend Graph Expo 2016

Art Post ·
Awesome, looking forward to meeting you!
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Re: Imaging Channel, Let's Become the Innovation Channel!!

Jf ·
Geo-strategic picture. Just great, Ray!
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Re: Imaging Channel, Let's Become the Innovation Channel!!

Art Post ·
Ray Good stuff, however when discussing imaging (which is a wide portfolio of devices), everyone seems to forget about the huge growth of niche imaging devices. Those devices include wide format, grand wide format, label presses, and envelope presses. While in Las Vegas in the spring of this year, I was able to attend the ISA Sign Expo. I've been to a lot of events in the past year and the ISA was the largest event I every attended. Two hundred thousand square feet of convention space with...
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Re: When Does Your IT Provider Start to Care About Your Cost Per Page?

Michael ·
Thank you!!! From Michael Alfheim....
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Re: When Does Your IT Provider Start to Care About Your Cost Per Page?

Rick Backus ·
Well Art you would think they would since it would mean more professional services for them. I think some companies are so entrenched in their core competencies that they tend to ignore anything outside that realm. Just my two cents for what it's worth.
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Re: When Does Your IT Provider Start to Care About Your Cost Per Page?

Doug ·
Suggestion - electronic forms and store - workflow setup to email patient their copy (no paper) - print copy for patient if needed. Doug Gruver - Business Analyst Stratix Systems Cell 215-622-7270
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Re: When Does Your IT Provider Start to Care About Your Cost Per Page?

Art Post ·
Rick & Doug Appreciate the comments!
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Re: When Does Your IT Provider Start to Care About Your Cost Per Page?

TimB ·
First of all, from my experience, doctors seem to be notoriously cheap when it comes to office equipment. The thought of giving their staff decent office equipment is not on their radar. They'd rather invest in the latest medical equipment or gadget, Mercedes/BMW, or hobby. That being said, re: HP printers, depending on the model, some of those older printers (like any in the 4000's) print pretty darn cheaply. Divide, say, $125 or $150 by 20,000 and that's pretty darn cheap. They have a hard...
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Re: "MFP Wars" Hi Speed A3 MFP's vs A4 MFP's

Ray Stasiezcko ·
Art, one of the problems is dealers servicing a machine for $30.00 a month. however, the reality is the industry has allowed the sales engine to destroy the service model. selling full service on A3 for .006 or less in volumes of 5k a month. Dealers were chasing sales revenue as they sacrificed service profits. As volumes continue declining so will margins. Dealers will begin realizing that all the A3 service they gave away is too costly to manage and the shift will begin. The A4...
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Re: "MFP Wars" Hi Speed A3 MFP's vs A4 MFP's

Art Post ·
Hi Ray I agree with the silliness of the low cost per page for A3. However most dealers have escalators that can raise the price as much as 10-15% per year whether it's A4 or A3. AS far as the $30 per month, almost no one will send out and invoice for $30 It's either billed quarterly or annually. One thing the A4 manufacturers won't due is too sacrifice the consumables. I also believe that dealers will always find a way to make their profit, whether it's Daas, flat rate, or seat based. I...
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Re: "MFP Wars" Hi Speed A3 MFP's vs A4 MFP's

Greg Moseley ·
Art, another piece of the equation is that monthly units placed are 45% to 74% mono A4 in the segment 3 and segment 4 speed range. Online retail is $170 to $600 where used A3’s are three times that amount. The real question here is what these placements are doing to the service department revenue and eventually to staffing.
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Re: "MFP Wars" Hi Speed A3 MFP's vs A4 MFP's

fisher ·
I've always sold A4 machines where they are a fit. There are very few A4 devices that offer a low CPC. Some carry CPCs that are very high. A bigger issue in many placements is that the Automatic Document Feeders on most A4 machines are not robust enough to meet the copy scan and fax demand. Many are complete garbage. In fact I've seen the quality of the Domument Feeders on A4 units go backwards in the last couple of years as if the document feeder is an afterthought or it is where the...
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Re: "MFP Wars" Hi Speed A3 MFP's vs A4 MFP's

Art Post ·
Amen @fisher doc feeders are inept on most A4's
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
China announced that they intend to place gov't employee/ observers into the Top 100 private tech companies in Hangzhou province of China with the stated goal of fostering a better business environment. China to place government officials in 100 companies including Alibaba The list of companies has not been published. NineStar Corporation of China which owns Lexmark is headquartered in a different province. NineStar has been described as the 4th largest tech company in China. Despite...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
I am deeply concerned about the race to the bottom with A4 product. A4 product certainly gets better everyday and some salespeople say it is just as good as A3...maybe true... except for your commissions. If you like Kraft dinner or Ramen noodles, downgrade your customers from A3 to A4. Let us not forget one of the largest A4 players out there is Lexmark. Lexmark is a 100% Chinese owned company called NineStar based in Guangdong, China. If you cheer MAGA, you cannot cheer Lexmark. God knows...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

Ray Stasiezcko ·
Appreciate the comments. However, your arguments regarding A4 vs. A3 pertain to what’s good for you. Industries which are going through disruption or when an industry’s particular product or its services become less valuable to those once dependent on them. The disease of Product-Centric thinking will infect those with a stubbornness to modify. It is not up to those who sell a product or service to determine its value. Its value is determined by those who buy the product or service.
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
In 2016, Apex Technologies (now NineStar Corporation) purchased Lexmark at a 17% premium above its share price. In the background, the Chinese gov't had purchased a 5% stake in Apex (at that time a relatively small and unknown maker of 3rd party toner and inkjet cartridges). In fact, Lexmark sued Apex for for at least 15 patent violations. Via what is known as the IC Fund, the Chinese gov't is supporting its technology companies with the goal of of advancing China's, "Made in China 2025", a...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

Art Post ·
SSG Wow, this has opened my eyes Thus the reason Huawei phones are not sold in the US. Personally, I don't trust the Chinese as far as I can spit. Who knows what chips are being loaded into Lexmark printers.
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
It goes way beyond phones with Huawei. Huawei is attempting to dominate the global telecom market for next generation, super high speed, 5G networks. The reason why the Chinese gov't is flipping out over the extradition issues with Meng, CFO Huawei is because she is considered to be a key technology Princess in China with deep family ties to the Chinese gov't. The Meng extradition issue is exposing China's "Made in China 2025" plan to replace the USA and other countries in select dominant...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

fisher ·
There is little to no margin in A4. Folks who want those products are just going to buy on-line. Let them. Best bet is focus on areas where you can still make money. Let other people chase the race to the bottom stuff.
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Re: Xerox, HP, Fuji Film, Fuji Xerox "It Just Keeps Getting Curiouser & Curiouser"

dimaxusa ·
Fuji might be the modern version of Konica’s Ikon CPP500 & Danka. What’s old could be new again. But don’t worry, according to all the naysayers, the industry has been dead since copy machines were taught how to print, scan and fax. Yes that right, I said copy machines, not MFP,MFD, XDF or whatever kids are calling them these days. You wanna make $200k per year selling gear, come and move to Wisconsin and we’ll so you the path to what could be...
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Re: Xerox, HP, Fuji Film, Fuji Xerox "It Just Keeps Getting Curiouser & Curiouser"

SalesServiceGuy ·
Xerox floats the idea of buying HP on the same day that the Fuji Xerox/ Xerox tussle seems to be resolved. Does that sound like a coincidence? I think Art hit the nail on the head when he said "In addition they would not have to purchase MFP's from Fuji Film in the future." I think this is Xerox's way of letting Fuji Xerox know that they do not hold all of the cards.
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Re: Xerox, HP, Fuji Film, Fuji Xerox "It Just Keeps Getting Curiouser & Curiouser"

Art Post ·
@SalesServiceGuy yeah that did seem kind of odd, however the Miami Herald did report that HP received a proposal from Xerox late yesterday. Ty for the comment
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Re: Xerox, HP, Fuji Film, Fuji Xerox "It Just Keeps Getting Curiouser & Curiouser"

Art Post ·
@dimaxusa I agree what comes around goes around, will be interesting to see how things pan out. I'm having one of my best years in the business, however the last two months have been terrible. But I'm not ready to give it up, many more good years are still ahead of us
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Re: Xerox, HP, Fuji Film, Fuji Xerox "It Just Keeps Getting Curiouser & Curiouser"

SalesServiceGuy ·
HP's head office is in Palo Alto, California. How could the Miami Herald in Florida, not known as a beacon of copier information and clear across the country, have this kind of information? Did someone at Xerox (?) deliberately leak confidential information to publicize a rumor?
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Re: It’s The End of The Day With Ray! HP releases 3rd Quarter Results Stock Price down 2% for the Year!

anthonyconstantinou ·
This is quite shocking. However, my (Anthony Constantinou) best wishes for future outcome
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Re: The Toner Wars

SalesServiceGuy ·
Great article! A lot of stuff about this part of the industry I knew nothing about.
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Re: The Toner Wars

Martin Hofman ·
Very interesting (and true) view on the future!
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
I am beginning to realize that one of the best tools to use when offering a customer both an A3/ A4 proposal is a longer term lease. Many A4 devices begin to require expensive major parts replacements somewhere around 150k to 200k prints. An A4 product could be a great solution for a customer who on average will never make more than 2,500 colour or 3,500 black pages per month x60. To sell a more expensive A3 product into that same space consider offering a 72 month lease so as to get to a...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

Ray Stasiezcko ·
It’s about the realities of data. Over 80% of the current A3 placements fit into the volumes you discuss. The facts in the data also show that A3 equipment takes three service interactions to only one service interaction on A4 running comparable volumes. All dealers need to reach out to BEI Services and understand the realities of the total service cost, especially as DaaS becomes the new billing model. In the near future, the customers will have new options more than likely which will come...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
I do understand where you are coming from in terms of your data that A4 MFPs are destined to displace A3 copiers at an accelerating rate. I also agree that A3 copiers vendors need to step up their game in terms of IT support and capabilities. A3 vendors still hold a couple of cards that IT centric print resellers do not have. 1). Feet on the street, experienced outside sales reps who can make 20 cold calls a day. We are in the B2B business which to some people means belly to belly 2).
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
I find it interesting that if you go to www.lexmark.com and search their website for "investor relations" or "financial statements" you get no response. If you search the NYSE or NASDAQ you will not find Lexmark except in the past tense. In the USA, Lexmark's Chief Financial Officer came from Huawei in 2017 and was first educated in Shanghai, China. To be fair, most of Lexmark USA's Senior Executives and Board of Directors seem to be of the highest quality and American descent. One has to...
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

fisher ·
If I was a Lexmark dealer I'd be a cheerleader for A4 too.
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

Ray Stasiezcko ·
Fisher give them a call I am sure they would welcome you to the team. A4 will be the future for an extremely large portion of the current A3 population.
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Re: HP should Buy Xerox

SalesServiceGuy ·
I am interested in your thoughts and data points that can confirm or deny that Lexmark OEM toner and OEM imaging unit yields tend to be, in the real world, often well below expected stated volumes. A real profit killer in cpc and MPS contracts.
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Re: Who's Afraid of the Epson WorkForce C20590 100ppm MFP?

Martin Hofman ·
Have you noticed the Kyocera 'link'? Take a look at the LCT on the right side of this Epson C20590...... it's the Kyocera PF-770 in Epson color.
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Re: Who's Afraid of the Epson WorkForce C20590 100ppm MFP?

Art Post ·
Marin, you are correct. Was also told that the finisher is also Kyo, but they would not be staying with that finisher. Connect with me via email or PM, there may be some opps for you with Epson
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Re: Who Would be a Viable Buyer for Toshiba Tec?

Jason H ·
Makes me wonder what may happen. From my talks with muratec, of course I'm not in a high position of being in the know, it sounds like the label presses will become their go to product and eventually the mfp's will be less important to them. It would be interesting to me if Samsung sold to HP for a billion (I'm not sure why HP thought they were getting a steal by paying a billion for the copier division) and then Samsung turns around and says "thanks for the billion dollars, now we are going...
 
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