That was our experience with Kyocera as well and why we left them for Samsung as our second line. Our primary is Ricoh and the Samsung is a great compliment to Ricoh as they give you similar speeds and feeds at a much lower price to the customer. For the low volume customer who still wants the features without the hefty price of a Ricoh the Samsung is the perfect fit. Samsung has some features I wish Ricoh had by the way. One other problem with Kyocera was the pricing made selling a Ricoh instead a no-brainer. The Kyos were not user friendly, had service issues and the techs hated them.