I'm with Art. I think the A4 systems are in the market to stay and soon everyone will have them. Samsung will also have A3 systems within the next 18 months to be able to offer them with the A4's on bids and tenders. We shouldn't forget old HP when we have this discussion...they still collect more clicks in NA than any other manufacturer and they are seriously getting into the managed print business. It seems to me it is going to come down to who is going to gaurantee the client the toner on the paper at the most efficient price, with the right match of features...clients won't care about the actual brand as much as in the past. We are finding that clients take our recommendation and will move with brands if we ensure WE will stand behind them...that opens our offers to be a best of breed solution even if it means mixing brands in some instances (we try to avoid this but it happens).