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This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Third Week of March 2008

 

Interesting model numbers below.  The 1224C the 1232C, the CL5000, this was the start of B2C conversions.  I can probably count the number of accounts on two hands that don't have a color device now.  Times sure do change.  Makes me wonder what the next big change will be?

Enjoy the threads from ten years ago this week in March!

Ricoh unviels 2090

subsidiary of Ricoh Company Ltd., the 67-year-old leading supplier of office automation equipment and electronics, with fiscal year 2001 sales in excess of $14 billion. The Company oversees Ricoh operations in North, Central and South America, including the Ricoh, Savin, Gestetner and Lanier brands. For fiscal year 2001, Ricoh Corporation sales exceeded $2.7 billion. Ricoh Corporation is a leading provider of multifunctional document systems including color and black & white digital imaging
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Re: Jim Ivy is out!!!!!

press releases Ricoh Corporation Appoints Thomas Salierno President of Ricoh U.S. West Caldwell, NJ, March 14, 2003 -- Katsumi Yoshida, Chairman and CEO of Ricoh Corporation announced today the appointment of Thomas Salierno Jr. as President of Ricoh U.S. effectively immediately. Mr. Salierno replaces Jim Ivy who has resigned from Ricoh Corporation. Mr. Salierno will direct all sales, marketing, service, and support for Ricoh, Savin and Gestetner brands in the United States, as well as OEM
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Re: Need help!

about 350K monthly on 2 1085's in tandem. I also would point out that I'm blessed by having some of the best high volume techs (15-20 years average experience on Ricoh systems) on the east coast working on these. They have told me that the improvements made to the 1085 engine regarding clutches etc have dramatically improved reliability over the 850/1050 engines (not that I've had many problems with the 850/1050) The only 1050 I have in the field is a customer who runs about 125K per month and
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Re: Need help!

From: spressomon Sent: 1/5/2003 8:56 PM Marty, You're not the only one that has trouble with 85/105 Ricoh's. The bulletin 'pack' is pretty thick now. We have approximately 20 out in the field. The only ones that run half way decent are the ones only running 75K or so. Ricoh really led us out on that limb...but the reality is Ricoh's high speed copiers have NEVER been Xerox/Kodak/Oce killers...oh well...none of the other Japanese copier companies have one either... Dan
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Sharp 2060??

Is this a new model that Sharp has launched. I have a deal that I pithched an 1802D to with options for $5k and they said they got a proposal for a Sharp 2060 that was similar for $2.5k. The only 2060 I am aware of is the Sharp SD 2060 that was manuf. in '93, but it's an analog console. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 1224/1232 Maintenance Pricing

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We charge the way RMAP does...$0.0135/click includes everything but color toner. Ricoh's Service Cost Fact Sheet has black copies @$0.0081/copy (assuming 6% coverage). Color copies generate $0.054/copy ($.0135 x 4 clicks) plus retail on whatever colored toner they use. Cost is less than $0.021/copy excluding supplies. Add Black toner costs of app. $0.003/copy and you get a cost of less than $0.025/copy giving a markup of 100% even if they don't buy their colored toner from you. Retail sales
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Re: CL 5000 report

400 dpi resolution to 800 x 400 dpi by, in effect, cutting the horizontal laser spot in half. Lines and text are noticably sharper. Canon has altered the order in which colors are printed on this machine, now putting cyan before any other colors (then magenta, yellow and black), thereby boosting brightness. Each color is transferred in a single step to improve color accuracy. Using Canon's Automatic Registration Adjustment feature, it self calibrates to reduce mis-registration, reduce downtime
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KYO adds two to BLI

Fairfield, New Jersey, March 24, 2003 – Kyocera Mita, one of the world's leading document imaging companies, today announced that it has been honored with two Editor’s Choice awards by highly regarded testing organization Better Buys for Business. The 2003 Mid-Volume Monochrome Printer Guide from Better Buys for Business reports that Kyocera Mita FS-1800+ and FS-1800N+ (19 pages per minute) printers have been named the best overall buys and best performing products in their category. They
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Subject: Response to article in Nikkei & Asia Times

misinterpreted what Ricoh U.S. is all about, hence the incorrect statement on the consolidation of three subsidiaries. Even more upsetting to me was his reporting that there would be a 15 percent reduction in our workforce. This is not true. What I did say was that by streamlining our operations, installing new systems we will maximize our efficiencies, end redundancies, and with attrition, these savings would equate to a 15 percent reduction in the workforce, not a reduction in the workforce
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1035 Printing User Codes

From: Wallace (Original Message) Sent: 1/2/2003 7:50 PM I am working with an attorney who wants to use Ricoh's "user codes" as his "client codes" for client billing. When making copies everything is straight forward. He enters the appropriate "user/client" number on the operations panel, makes copies and the copies are recorded. However, I have not been able to understand IF we can also do this for printing and if we can HOW. I have done my homework, reading the manuals and trying to do this
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Re: I Got A Lesson In Color!

might have cost thousands of dollars to run. Proofing devices generally have a very high per page cost($8-100) and look INCREDIBLE. Our devices have a very low per page cost(.10-.99) and look GOOD. Believe me, if anyone made a PROOFING device that had this kind of cost per page... and we were selling it... we'd all be rich. The next step back in the process is called pre-proofing, this step is where our devices have a chance. We can print a very good approximation of what the press print
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Re: 1224/1232 Maintenance Pricing

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We are trying to decide how to price our maintenance also. There are many interesting aspects to this copier and it's printer cousin, the CL5000. If I understand everything correctly, the idea of billing a CPP for black and billing for color toner separately isn't a great idea as many of the "parts" (DV units, PC's) are "development" dependant, not copy (print) dependant. Using the Ricoh Service Cost Fact Sheet, it appears that the CPP for B&W with toner with a 30% margin would be about
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Re: 1224/1232 Maintenance Pricing

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I preface my remarks by saying that I'm involved on the service side of the business which obviously leads to a certain bias, but to say "Tell the powers that be at your company that they have to do something even if its wrong so that you can make hay while the sun is shining." reflects an obvious bias as well. While recognizing that placing equipment is essential for the success of any company (and that this excellant site is sales oriented), to do so without regard for the profitablility of
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Re: 1224/1232 Maintenance Pricing

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Not to beat a dead horse, but now that I've looked at the RMAP pricing (rather than rely on hearsay) I totally agree that the Ricoh suggested pricing is very reasonable. Thanks for the input!
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Re: CL 5000 report

The Canon CLC 5000 is available in either of two basic configurations: with a letter paper deck that holds uptp 4,000 sheets of 20lb. bond; or with a user adjustable Oversized Paper Deck that jolds up to 2,000 sheets of letter, ledger, or 12 x 18 paper. Either deck will also handle card stock up to 90lb Index oir 60lb cover stock, or up to 250 transparancy sheets. Note that the paper decks are not removable or interchangable; you order the CLC 5000 with either one or the other. However, it
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Re: Ricoh 2090 and 20105 to be introduced late this month!

I have heard that too, they will be available by the end of this month. Ricoh trying to close more March business.
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Re: UNIX

From: Lee Sent: 12/17/2002 6:57 PM Are you using thescript from the Ricoh-usa website for setting up the printing in Unix? What version are you having trouble with? Thanks! Lee
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Re: 1035 Printing User Codes

From: Graham Sent: 1/3/2003 7:09 AM Here's the deal.... In order to do this with printing, you CAN NOT use the Ricoh RPCS drivers, these drivers will only allow you to enter the user code for the printer once and then it stays static in that pc, the only way to change it is to uninstall and reinstall the driver. You CAN, however change the user code on the fly in the PCL drivers both PCL 5 and PCL 6. To do this, you have to change the user code within the properties each time you print. This is
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Re: 1027 fax memory limitations

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here. They even have the HDD's for all the machines (fax and copiers) the great thing about this stuff is that they are Genuine OEM RIcoh products. You might ask how they can have Genuine Ricoh memory and HDD's so cheap. Well...they are the manufacturer in Canada that makes the stuff for Ricoh Canada. Since they have a contract with Ricoh Canada, they can't sell this stuff to the dealers in Canada. However, they can sell all they want to the USA (and do)! They even will be willing to
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Re: Page Numbering on 700

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I knew you were going to ask that. Art had the same question about a week ago. No, you cannot start with a 4 digit number. Sorry. That could be something to talk to Ricoh about for future machines.
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Re: Aficio 6513 vs Minolta CF 2003

Topic: 6513 vs. Minolta 2003 (2 of 2), Read 7 times Conf: COLOR: Competitive Discussion From: Gordon Evans (braeva@rjyoung.com) Date: Sunday, March 16, 2003 08:45 AM I'm betting this is the Minolta 2002. It's 20ppm vs. your 13, has an available bookletmaker finisher which works from both the copy and print modes, is capable of running 140# index thru the 250 sheet universal tray, comes std. with command workstation software on the 700mhz fiery vs. your optional command workstation on the 366mhz
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Re: 3800 CMF Problem, need help

From: Jim Stocker Sent: 6/10/2002 6:08 AM The official answer that we’ve received from Ricoh, is that only the black DVU is used for B&W, and when it receives a color page, all 4 DVU’s are engaged, but they don’t disengage due a potential speed issue. My thought is if you can make it engage for color pages, make them disengage if the client wants it to. Anyway, in your specific situation, why not have them reverse the page order, so the B&W prints first? Cheers. Jim Stocker
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Re: 3800 CMF Problem, need help

color mode. Just MAYBE 7-003-8 minus 7-003-14 equals the true number of Color prints made 7-003-7 plus 7-003-14 equals the true number of black and white prints made Hey, it's just a theory...perhaps someone at Ricoh could either confirm or deny that this is the way it works. Thanks! Lee
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Re: 3800 CMF Problem, need help

From: ricohaficio Sent: 6/11/2002 5:15 AM We offer two agrrements for the color printers and CMF. 1. One Labor only with unlimited clicks. 2. We follow the RMAP guide for service and pricing. Art
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Re: Sharp 2060??

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The only Sharp 2060 is the SD. I have run into these down here in FL as well.
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Re: Help!

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Two come to mind. I hate to say it, but DLL is one. Fleet is the other. Both will probably require a deposit, and as long as the bankrupt person has kept clean for 6 years, them might take that into consideration. If he hasn't, they're probably sunk. I don't know who you work with at DLL, (otherwise known as Ricoh Leasing) but we work with Burt Villareal. Great guy, and if everything looks good on the one guy, he would probably work with you. He probably doesn't handle your territory
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Need help!

High Volime re-post from the msn site Just signed up in here and I'm trying to find some 85 - 105 discussion. We don't have a ton out but ones We do, don't seem to run all that well. Like 80K to 130K between Calls. Is ricoh going to replace that engine with a new generation anytime in the near future ? Thanks Marty
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Magazine Mode or Booklets

before showing your customer and it will go just fine. Used to use this on earlier Aficios. You can even use a reshuffle like this to create that cute little 16-Up booklet that you could prepare with the Aficio 400. Let me know if you are interested, I'd have to look in my archives for the sample. Good Selling!
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Open VMS

Are there open vms drivers for any of the Ricoh products?
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CL 5000 report

This is a re-post from the msn site This report will 4 parts The Canon CLC 5000 (not be confused with the Canon iR 5000, ablack & white digital introduced late last year) is Canon's latest high-end color production center. The CLC 5000 began shipping in limited quantities late in the first quarter of this year. Canon's goals for this machine include superior image quality, enhanced productivity, the reliability required to handle long runs, document finishing capabilities new to machines in the
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Doculex @ AIIM 2003

is compatible with most production scanners and digital copiers via SCSI & TWAIN drivers. PDF documents enjoy universal acceptance, assured security and convenient storage via server or CD-ROM. For additional user and reseller information on PDF.Capture Version 6, including the companion electronic document search/retrieval/viewing/printing program DocuLex Search, call DocuLex at (863) 297-3691 ext. 250 or email sales@doculex.com.
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Auto Color Sensor

For those that have not yet launched the 1224/1232, I'm sorry, it is a fantastic machine. Anyways, Ricoh pitches the machine for both printing and copying that it has this Auto Color Sensor. Basically it would slow down for color at 8/10 ppm and then if it catches b & W documents it speeds up to 24/32 ppm. Am I following this right. Fromt the walk up obviously the machine has to be on Auto Color, but from the print driver you only have the option of color or b&W. Some clarification would be
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3800 CMF Problem, need help

Another re-post from the old site, information here is great please re-read. From: LisaPeace (Original Message) Sent: 6/9/2002 7:59 AM Hi there! My office found an issue with the 3800CMF (also w/the 3800C) this last week and don't quite know how to handle it. We've been told to position these products as a b&w product that also does fast color....but here's the deal: If you go to copy or print a mixed set of originals (b&w and color), the meters on the machine don't toggle back and forth. If
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3800C Warranty?

This message was posted by Lee on our old site. Could we hear from others as to how you handle the warranty on these printers. Please everyone speak up, we need to hear from everyone who reads this. From: Lee (Original Message) Sent: 6/11/2002 9:55 PM Art, I attended a Nuts and Bolts meeting a while back and made a couple of notes about warranty on the 3800C. The warranty to the dealer is actually for 450 days from date of purchase (I think this is the date that the dealer purchased it) The
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